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Re:Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood by potato3732842 on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @01:47PM (#43473951)
As usual, the people you fill the space with make all the difference. The stereotype gets reinforced by the kind of suburbs HN people tend to live in and to have been raised in.

Wealthy white collar suburbs almost universally suck because people don't really miss out on much by not interacting with each other and people have no real problems so they tend to make each other their problems and not like what their neighbors do.

You go down the economic ladder and things get a lot better because people have enough real problems they don't give a shit about whether their other neighbor pulled permits or what the setbacks are or how long their project car/boat has sat on blocks, and they interact with each other because being friends with your neighbors well enough to share tools and trade favors is worth it.

Re:Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood by happytoexplain on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @02:02PM (#43474081)
Another bitter stereotype contributing to the US cultural divide. I live in an economically diverse but mostly well-off white collar suburb (not in CA), and we have a strong sense of community. We walk to each other's houses on a whim, we help each other get things done, we shovel the snow for the older folks, we watch out for each other and text each other, we organize community get-togethers. I realize this is an anecdote - I am not saying the correlation you're describing isn't statistically real, just that it's pointlessly negative.
Re:Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood by germandiago on Wednesday March 26, 2025 @04:18AM (#43479969)
How can you label as pointlessly negative something that, in your own words, is statistically real?

Reality is what removes the bias more than anecdote, and statistics is what tracks these facts.

It would negatively biased if it was more of corner cases than not.

Re:Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood by Baeocystin on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @03:08PM (#43474671)
FWIW, this has been my experience as well. When I lived in poor neighborhoods, yeah, we had more property crime. We also had a tremendous sense of community; I knew everyone, they knew me, food & favors were traded happily. The block parties we had during the summer were tremendous amounts of fun.

Meanwhile, the more wealthy neighborhoods are full of busybodies sniffing around for the slightest HOA infraction, and high-anxiety individuals reflecting and amplifying each other's tensions. Each home is a fortress unto itself. I feel pretty lucky to be in the middle, where we don't have as much crime as the poorer areas, but we still know one another, and still trade food on the holidays.

Re:Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood by kulahan on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @07:13PM (#43477093)
Exact opposite experience for me. When people have nothing, they have no buy-in, and give no craps about what their neighborhood is like. They’re too busy dealing with their “real problems” to care if someone is robbing a house right in front of them.

Wealthier neighborhoods tend to have massive buy-in from the residents, because who wants to lose something that nice?

Point being: the experience is best when avoiding extremes. Poverty and incredible wealth both lead to issues in a neighborhood.