OpenID Coming to SSH

Re:OpenID Coming to SSH by mdaniel on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @11:06AM (#43472243)

I'm surprised it defaults to writing out key material into the filesystem[1] when SSH Agent has existed for quite a while. This use case seems especially relevant to sticking them in the agent given that (IIUC) these are short-lived certs anyway, so if your agent bounced you'd just get a fresh one without drama

I do see <https://github.com/openpubkey/opkssh/issues/6#issuecomment-2...> so I'm glad it's conceptually on the radar, I'm just saying I'm surprised it wasn't part of Cloudflare's best practices already

1: https://github.com/openpubkey/opkssh/blob/v0.3.0/commands/lo...

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Re:OpenID Coming to SSH by EthanHeilman on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @11:45AM (#43472704)

Excellent point, SSH agent is a feature I've wanted to build for a while now but there was higher priority features. It will probably be included in the next major release. Would you put up for submitting it as a PR?

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Re:OpenID Coming to SSH by mdaniel on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @11:50AM (#43472741)

If I were still using SSH, maybe[1] but I'm thankful that I haven't used SSH in several years. I guess I also dodged a bullet by getting out before the Vault rug pull, since that would have made my life painful

1: although I don't think I'm the target audience for trail-blazing SSH auth; am a much, much bigger fan of just using X509 CA auth using short-term certs; it's much easier to reason about IMHO

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Re:OpenID Coming to SSH by EthanHeilman on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @01:30PM (#43473766)

OpenPubkey does support X.509 using an X.509 extension.

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Re:OpenID Coming to SSH by ale42 on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @05:56PM (#43476447)

Out of curiosity, what are you using now? Or do you mean you don't need remote terminals any more because you work on other stuff?

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Re:OpenID Coming to SSH by mdaniel on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @10:09PM (#43478127)

All SSM, all the way. I even gravely considered using their IAM Anywhere capabilities to jump onto Azure or GCP instances, before that project was overcome by events

I'm cheating you a little bit, though, because for the most part once a VM gets kubelet on it, I'm off to the races. Only in very, very, very bad circumstances does getting on the actual Node help me

I also recently have started using <https://docs.aws.amazon.com/systems-manager/latest/userguide...> to even get sequestered cluster access via $(aws ssm start-session --document-name AWS-StartPortForwardingSessionToRemoteHost) although the "bootstrapping" problem of finding the instance-id to feed into --target is a pain. I wish they offered https://docs.aws.amazon.com/systems-manager/latest/userguide... in the spirit of "yeah, yeah, just pick one" versus making me run $(aws ec2 describe-instances --filter | head -n1) type thing

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Re:OpenID Coming to SSH by linkregister on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @09:55PM (#43478053)

That sounds like an interesting feature to write. Is there an open issue for it?

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Re:OpenID Coming to SSH by EthanHeilman on Wednesday March 26, 2025 @12:57PM (#43484259)

There is an issue with a lively discussion happening currently

"Key management improvements on the client and SSH agent support": https://github.com/openpubkey/opkssh/issues/6#issuecomment-2...

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