Re:'The Celts: A Modern History' by Ian Stewart Review
by littlestymaar on Friday March 21, 2025 @02:27PM
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Why is it pronounced like that in English? And why are the Boston Celtics pronounced differently? For thr record in French we pronounce Celtes with a soft "c".
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Re:'The Celts: A Modern History' by Ian Stewart Review
by spookie on Friday March 21, 2025 @05:24PM
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English doesn't share the same linguistic root, so these differences are bound to appear. Well, if you take out indo-european that is.
Re:'The Celts: A Modern History' by Ian Stewart Review
by littlestymaar on Friday March 21, 2025 @06:53PM
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> English doesn't share the same linguistic root. […] Well, if you take out indo-european that is.
It's a bit more complex, English is half a Germanic language but also half French.
But that doesn't explains why “Celtic” is pronounced differently in “Boston Celtics”.
Re:'The Celts: A Modern History' by Ian Stewart Review
by spookie on Friday March 21, 2025 @08:04PM
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That I presume is just the natural evolution of language, their origins fade away, they become culturally assimilated, and pronounced more in line with the hosts. Nothing new. But interesting nonetheless. I don't have a definitive answer but I presume it was something like that.
Re:'The Celts: A Modern History' by Ian Stewart Review
by bee_rider on Saturday March 22, 2025 @02:17AM
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I believe what happened is, at some point in the past we used the soft-c (I guess this is when all the sports teams were named). But more recently it was switched to hard-c, to reflect the Greek origin of the word.
Re:'The Celts: A Modern History' by Ian Stewart Review
by ttyprintk on Saturday March 22, 2025 @06:14AM
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I think that’s right: from 300 AD to 1700, nobody used the word. Medieval Latin dominated in the meantime, and so preferred a soft c in Celtae without an academic to insist on the k in Keltoi.