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Re:Claude can now search the web by sshine on Friday March 21, 2025 @08:54AM (#43435063)
> As a German: He did

As a Jew: He didn't. (This argument is absurd.)

He was interviewed about it, and he said he didn't.

How does being a German get you to jump to conclusions?

Are you born with a special ability to detect nazi salutes?

Like, did a mirror neuron and a nerve in your torso twitch?

When I saw it, I recognised him beating his heart, throwing it to the crowd, and immediately thought "This is going to get misunderstood." Here we are.

> I usually don't like cancel-culture but you have to have boundaries and I think the risk of another Holocaust and all the other Nazi cruelties is a boundary a functioning society should be able to agree on.

Assuming he's a nazi, but this narrative is fabricated.

You can argue that allowing free speech on X may risk an increase in extremism.

But that's not the same argument as saying "Elon Musk is the next Hitler, he wants to kill the jews, and all cars fabricated in his name should be destroyed for the betterment of humanity." There's simply too many emotions involved in this kind of reasoning.

Re:Claude can now search the web by speedgoose on Friday March 21, 2025 @01:38PM (#43438741)
I’m pretty sure than being from Germany brings a lot of cultural knowledge about the nazis. I’m from a bordering country and I also had extensive education about the nazis.

Now, I am not convinced that people of the mentioned religion are anymore better than others to fight nazis. Or even detect them. And when you read the recent international news, it’s clear that many of them don’t really mind genocides after all.

Re:Claude can now search the web by jascha_eng on Friday March 21, 2025 @03:42PM (#43440066)
Prefacing my comment with my nationality wasn't meant to give me authority over judging the situation, but about giving context on my point of view.

Also you didn't read my comment correctly the whole poin is that you don't have to assume he's a Nazi to condemn a Nazi-like salute.

Re:Claude can now search the web by sshine on Sunday March 23, 2025 @01:08PM (#43454219)
It makes sense for Germans to react negatively to the salute regardless of its intent. It is, after all, banned in Germany.
Re:Claude can now search the web by dgfl on Saturday March 22, 2025 @04:29AM (#43444358)
I think the misconception you have is that nazism means “WW2 anti-semitism” for you. The education on the topic that we get in many European countries goes deeper than that.

Would it be better if they called Elon a fascist? He did the fascist salute, after all. And as other commenters have said: if it endorses authoritarian far-right parties like a duck, has controversial white-supremacist parents like a duck, and does the fascist salute like a duck, at which point do we start wondering wether he’s actually a duck?

Re:Claude can now search the web by sshine on Sunday March 23, 2025 @01:06PM (#43454207)
> Would it be better if they called Elon a fascist? He did the fascist salute, after all.

No, you mean to say “nazi salute” because it was used by NSDAP during WWII. The point here is that “nazi” now means “baddie”, and “fascist” is even worse because most people who are called that have nothing to do with Mussolini, either.

> if it endorses authoritarian far-right parties like a duck, has controversial white-supremacist parents like a duck, and does the fascist salute like a duck, at which point do we start wondering wether he’s actually a duck?

Cute. You can wonder, of course. That seems extremely warranted. But you can’t conclude based on the current evidence.