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Re:I Fear for the Unauthenticated Web by fewsats on Thursday March 20, 2025 @01:12PM (#43425953)
There's a real economic problem here: when someone scrapes your site, you're literally paying for them to use your stuff. That's messed up (and not sustainable)

It seems like a good fit for micropayments. They never took off with people but machines may be better suited for them.

L402 can help here.

https://l402.org

Re:I Fear for the Unauthenticated Web by fewsats on Thursday March 20, 2025 @01:18PM (#43426031)
The other obvious solution is a "web of trust" where Cloudflare just tells you "this request goes in, this one goes out".

I think the paying approach is superior (after all you make money out of people using your service) but Cloudflare is a straight forward/simpler one.

Re:I Fear for the Unauthenticated Web by tqwhite on Thursday March 20, 2025 @01:20PM (#43426056)
Aren't you paying for me to use the site, too? Or Google? Isn't the point of paying for a web hosting service to distribute information?
Re:I Fear for the Unauthenticated Web by fewsats on Thursday March 20, 2025 @03:02PM (#43427519)
Yes, but there is a "free lunch" problem. I can run a script that hits your page costing you X at a fraction of the cost for me (the user)

*Edit: typo

Re:I Fear for the Unauthenticated Web by tqwhite on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:17PM (#43430146)
I think the whole internet is a free lunch problem as far as that goes. I pay for web hosting because I consider the cost to be worth it to send my fabulous opinions into the ether.

The premise of this thread is that somehow the LLM builders are reading too much. I bet it's less than google.

I continue to believe, if you don't want everyone in the world to see and use your stuff, don't put it on the internet.