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Re:The Intenet Slum: is abandoning the Internet the next big... by SoftTalker on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @10:53PM (#43419522)
A nice middle ground is meters that take payment cards. That does exclude people who don't have them but most of those meters take apps as well, and the people who have neither a credit card nor a smartphone probably don't have a car either.

It is annoying though to have to install half a dozen different parking apps for the lots that have partnered with different app providers. It would be nice if public parking lot apps would interoperate.

Re:The Intenet Slum: is abandoning the Internet the next big... by theoreticalmal on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:07AM (#43421669)
What’s the difference between requiring users to pay via app vs requiring users to pay via payment card? Both require extra effort / extra knowledge / extra hardware to make the payment, beyond the “default” national currency
Re:The Intenet Slum: is abandoning the Internet the next big... by dartos on Thursday March 20, 2025 @11:24AM (#43424626)
I think using a card is friendlier than using an app.

It takes fewer “clicks” so to speak and is more accessible to the elderly.

But anything government which doesn’t require to keep track of a purchaser’s identity should accept cash. Otherwise what’s the point of cash if your own state doesn’t accept it.

Re:The Intenet Slum: is abandoning the Internet the next big... by n4r9 on Thursday March 20, 2025 @12:01PM (#43425042)
> using a card is friendlier than using an app

This is so obviously true for non-tech elderly folk that don't already have smartphones. I can hardly believe it's in question.

Card:

1. Receive free card from bank in mail.

2. Keep card in your wallet/purse which you already take every time you go out.

3. Memorise PIN (the tricky bit, to be fair).

4. Wave or insert card for payment.

Phone app:

1. Either find a phone shop and ask for help, or figure out how to securely buy a smartphone online.

2. Figure out how to set your phone up. This involves a lot of confusing decisions such as whether to create an apple/google account, which services to enable, etc... .

3. Learn how to search for, install, and use phone apps. The parking app will vary depending on where you choose to park.

4. Set up google/apple pay or your card payment details on required apps.

5. Learn how to connect your phone to wifi if you end up parking in an area with internet but no phone signal.

6. Remember to take your smartphone with you every time you plan to drive and park somewhere.

7. Muddle your way through what is often a bloated, ad-ridden app every time you want to park.

Re:The Intenet Slum: is abandoning the Internet the next big... by thfuran on Thursday March 20, 2025 @01:54PM (#43426572)
> Memorise PIN (the tricky bit, to be fair).

Not even that, for a credit card.

Re:The Intenet Slum: is abandoning the Internet the next big... by mixmastamyk on Thursday March 20, 2025 @11:44AM (#43424840)
Card—specific info given on a need-to-know basis. App—all info broadcast to everyone all the time, often for sale. Requires hardware, power, data plan.
Re:The Intenet Slum: is abandoning the Internet the next big... by latentcall on Thursday March 20, 2025 @11:46AM (#43424870)
Everybody even the elderly have debit or credit cards. You have your card, you insert it, and walk away with two hours of parking.

An app often requires some account setup with spam emails to follow.