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Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by brcmthrowaway on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:40PM (#43418424)
It seems these chips have all sort of hardcoded and heuristic knowledge literally baked into them. Disappointing.

Why can't AI come up with some kind of fast universal computation machine that doesnt have the need for the siliconized version of ifdefs?

Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by Jotalea on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:17PM (#43418673)
AI doesn't "create", it "modifies" existing data.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by timewizard on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @11:38PM (#43419707)
It regurgitates whatever was in it's training set.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by MBCook on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @11:50PM (#43419761)
If you’re lucky.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by golf_mike on Thursday March 20, 2025 @02:30AM (#43420296)
Don't we all :)
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by timewizard on Thursday March 20, 2025 @04:02AM (#43420692)
Knowledge is significantly different from a training set. In particular we can hold incomplete knowledge that is eventually resolved through further practice and observation. Also knowledge access is analog and inaccurate to a degree that often introduces emergent behavior into outputs.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by rileymat2 on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:53PM (#43418890)
Isn't a collage a creative work?
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by acchow on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:18PM (#43418680)
Do you mean FPGAs?

Because fixed silicon inevitably has fixed "baked in" choices.

Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by immibis on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:46PM (#43418839)
This is, like, the entirety of computing. Did x86 spring fully-formed from Zeus's forehead or did people bake in their knowledge of what programmers wanted their programs to do?

When you write programs do you not use heuristics? And tests?

Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by buildbot on Thursday March 20, 2025 @01:01AM (#43420016)
It’s a little known fact that x86 is literally Athena! Which I guess means Intel should be casting some lightning bolts towards AMD and others.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by ok_computer on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:47PM (#43418845)
Yep, the crowning achievement of machine complexity in recent human history is easily generalized in computational efficacy by effectively markov chain chatbots that were trained on project Gutenberg, reddit comments, and github python and javascript repos.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by wegfawefgawefg on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:55PM (#43418899)
theres lots of ai other than llms
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by ok_computer on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @09:54PM (#43419224)
Ok fair point.

One such method was an improvement in matrix matrix multiplication in 2022. So I’m sure there is a potential discovery of many efficient numerical algorithms that will be uncovered with machine learning.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05172-4

My parent comment was a knee jerk response to the over confidence and wishful thinking of computer work people to a magic AI box solving all the hard physical problems like its some simple conversation prompt away.

Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by shermantanktop on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @10:10PM (#43419305)
Unfortunately I think the fetishization of prompting is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Over time these models will be able to understand enough of the physical problems to have a dumb prompt yield a reasonable if not optimal solution. But of course that house of cards collapses when fundamental advances appear.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by barotalomey on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:38AM (#43421827)
If you're not smart enough to make use of a optimal or even acceptable solution, the quality of the LLM answer doesn't matter.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by nl on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @11:49PM (#43419756)
Human brains have lots of "hard wired" heuristic knowledge literally baked into them. See for example https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/computer-science/ventra...

Is it surprising that silicon does too?

Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by barotalomey on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:39AM (#43421829)
> Is it surprising that silicon does too?

Given that human brains and silicon has nothing in common, then yes, it is surprising. What makes you think otherwise?

Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by nl on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:58PM (#43430433)
If evolution has worked out that having specifically optimized pathways for specific actions it doesn't seem terrible that human designed machines are similar.
Re:Looking Ahead at Intel's Xe3 GPU Architecture by barotalomey on Friday March 21, 2025 @04:39AM (#43433195)
I feel that's assuming a whole lot of unrelated things, such as machines and humans having anything at all in common.

I get that your take qualifies as stoner philosophy, so I won't push too far, but really. Do give some concrete examples to support your ideas rather than GPT fluff.