Well, Ford and the Dulles brothers first supported Hitler against the communist threat. Up until Pearl Harbor WW2 was just a little continental war where it wasn't clear which side should be annihilated.

In the end they gave Poland, which was the initial casus belli and supposed to be protected by Britain, to Stalin (another lesson what being a proxy for maritime powers looks like).

Were any Ford cars vandalized during the time?

> Up until Pearl Harbor WW2 was just a little continental war where it wasn't clear which side should be annihilated.

It wasn't in America but it was in the rest of the world, since European powers controlled such a large part of the world back then.

even the ADL stated it was obviously not a nazi salute. please pull back from the brink and stop advocating for political violence

That means nothing, the ADL is willing to make an uneasy alliance with legitimate antisemites if it means furthering their settler colonialist project in the middle east.

he literally did it not once, but twice. i've been alive for thirty two years and done my fair share of autistic shit (programmer). But yknow what I've managed to never accidentally do? Anything even vaguely resembling a nazi salute. And yknow what? Fine, suppose for a moment it was an accident or whatever. If i were a billionaire figureheard of my company on national television in the seat of power of the free world, I would ensure I had media training and knew how to not have the international audience go "wow he just did a nazi salute, twice" if I didn't intend it. Remember George W stopping himself from saying the sound bite of "shame on me"? Elon is either literally, genuinely stupid, or he meant to do a nazi salute. And I honestly don't believe Elon is stupid from an intelligence perspective.

One last remark: if I did accidentally do a nazi salute on live television, do you know what I would do at the soonest available opportunity? Clarify that I'm not a nazi, it was an accident, and that nazis are bad. It's a surefire way to ensure you're not accidentally perceived as a nazi. Similar to how "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" really helped Dead kennedys in this regard.

He’s said several times that he’s not a Nazi. But people like you who are so steeped in tribal politics have the mindset that he’s evil, so you won’t take anything he says as anything but evil. Confirmation bias sucks ass.

The GOP and Trump himself swore up and down heading into the election that he wasn't planning to implement the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, and yet here we are implementing it, and with several of its authors occupying senior executive branch positions. I hate to break this to you, but people are not always honest.

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1889165338337493244 who reported this is... actually... a jew?

Oh my god.

I suppose resettling all Gazans and expelling pro-Palestininan protesters from the country is also tokenism. Or having Miriam Adleson as the second largest donor after Musk.

I have no idea what your point is or what you think my point is. But yes, people with all sorts of different backgrounds can be fascists. Fascism is inherently contradictory, and fascists are willing to make alliances even if they have ideological schisms.

There are plenty of legitimate antisemites in Trump's base, however Miriam Adelson is willing to overlook that to further her own fascist project. I think we are in agreement here.

The parent comment was using tokenism in their "argument" if you could call it that.

Dude people bought the cars before Elon revealed himself to be a Nazi. Owning a Tesla does not make you an ideological fascist.

Tip of my Sean John hat to you sir.