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Re:In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to ... by Karunamon on Saturday August 04, 2012 @04:21PM (#4339543)
>We all know that the finance guys were too reckless in their pursuit of profits. But recklessness is not a crime (and indeed, the only crime in the U.S. system for which "recklessness" is relevant is manslaughter/murder).

Perhaps this is a facet of law that people should lobby to get changed. The kind of wanton disregard shown by the finanical sector during the recent meltdown damn well should be a crime, if it isn't already.

Re:In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to ... by smsm42 on Sunday August 05, 2012 @12:28AM (#4340585)
Does it also mean people who bought houses way out of their price range in hopes of selling them to the next fool and took out huge home equity loans and blew it on vacations and luxuries and then defaulted on their loans and by this contributed to the following economic crash - should they go to jail too? They were reckless without doubt.

I also submit it was reckless to provide mass government guarantee for subprime loans - after all, they are subprime for a reason, due to very high default risk, and when this risk materialized - and it had to materialize sometime unless whoever evaluated these loans as subprime was wildly mistaken - taxpayers were on the hook for these loans. Should people who supported FNM and FMA operations go to jail for that?

I'm afraid we'd end up jailing a real lot of people, including a lot of politicians, if we go this road. And if it would produce any negative consequences, we'd also have to jail whoever proposed such laws - as it would be deemed reckless to propose it...

Re:In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to ... by Retric on Saturday August 04, 2012 @08:04PM (#4340106)
If recklessness while driving is a crime by it's self.

There are plenty of other examples, but many of these people went well past recklessness into fraud. EX1: If you setup a deal, know it's terrible and bet your own money that it will fail while advising your clients to do the deal with their money then your committing fraud. EX2: If your training documents tell people to commit fraud then your directly culpable.

Re:In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to ... by stfu on Saturday August 04, 2012 @06:02PM (#4339835)
In my opinion rechlessness is necessary to bring society forward. This behavior induces change to the system and breaks the status quo. Sure, this has often bad consequences, but daring to break the status quo should be generally rewarded, and only regulated in cases where the negative impact on society gets too extreme/long term.
Re:In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to ... by r00fus on Saturday August 04, 2012 @06:58PM (#4339955)
Fine. Except the "recklessness" was given AAA status by ratings agency, making it difficult to properly assess risk.

Risky investments guised as Safe should very well be illegal - it's fraud.

Re:In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to ... by raverbashing on Sunday August 05, 2012 @03:44AM (#4340880)
It's so funny how I agree with you and the parent.

Recklessness changing the world: Charles Lindberg

But of course he didn't sell tickets to his first voyage

And sure, branding something it's barely valued more than the paper it's printed on is fraud.

Re:In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to ... by pooriaazimi on Saturday August 04, 2012 @07:12PM (#4339994)
Do whatever the hell you want with your own money (set fire to it, if you feel like it), but if you're trusted with other people's money, you shouldn't be "reckless". It's not a video game that you can return to last "saved" point before your ridiculous adventures if they prove to be wrong.
Re:In China, the rich and powerful can hire body doubles to ... by Karunamon on Saturday August 04, 2012 @07:07PM (#4339983)
As a general rule of thumb? Sure. When you're gambling with other people's money (and lives to a point)? No.