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Re:The good times in tech are over by bob1029 on Sunday March 16, 2025 @10:15AM (#43379237)
> the incentives for employees were completely disconnected from the underlying business

I've found that even when we were incentivized via direct & simple profit sharing mechanisms, we still struggled with the appropriate focus and urgency. You'd think additional piles of money based upon # of customers coming in the door would provoke substantially more activity.

Money is a huge distraction. The most successful phases of my career have involved putting the customer absolutely first and looking at the money as a causal event based upon a job well done. I've never looked at a direct deposit into my bank account and felt the kind of rush of happiness I get when I see a customer reply that an issue is resolved to their satisfaction.

Re:The good times in tech are over by parpfish on Sunday March 16, 2025 @10:28AM (#43379337)
Stock and equity just aren’t great at motivating employees.

If you’re at a small and pre-public startup, your decisions and effort can directly affect product success BUT the equity is only theoretically valuable someday in the distant future so you ignore it.

If you’re public and getting stock/rsus, your company is likely large enough that there’s nothing you can do single-handedly to affect the price.

Re:The good times in tech are over by ryandrake on Sunday March 16, 2025 @12:02PM (#43380050)
Plus, stock price doesn't necessarily reflect (or isn't directly proportional to) positive business outcomes. Even if it was a great motivating tool, you would only motivate employees to do whatever pumped the stock price, not necessarily to solve underlying business problems.
Re:The good times in tech are over by dzhiurgis on Sunday March 16, 2025 @05:10PM (#43382350)
More money to spend - less time at work. I’d rather spend all my time sailing than coding.
Re:The good times in tech are over by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Monday March 17, 2025 @12:34PM (#43390278)
Stock and equity aren't really formotivating employees. They're for attracting employees, and then aligning their goals with those of the shareholders.

The first software startup I worked at didn't give out equity, and when the sales guys closed big deals with aggressive delivery timelines we hated it because it just meant more work for us. Many of my teammates passive aggressively dragged their feet, but if we'd had equity we would've been high-fiving the sales guys after landing big clients.

Re:The good times in tech are over by halfcat on Sunday March 16, 2025 @11:31AM (#43379813)
You’re well supported by research on this [1]. TLDW:

- More money leads to more output for physical tasks

- More money leads to worse results for cognitive tasks

What does move the needle:

- Pay people enough so they’re not thinking about the money

- Desire for autonomy, mastery, impact

[1] https://youtu.be/u6XAPnuFjJc