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Re:It doesn't cost much to improve someone's life, and we ca... by lurk2 on Saturday March 15, 2025 @04:33AM (#43370998)
The ones who can afford it have been building bunkers in New Zealand and Argentina, but if you sincerely believe a civil war is on the horizon, almost anywhere would be a better option.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine had a negative impact on international markets, but if you were from either country you would have been better off living abroad when it happened.

Similarly, you would be better off almost anywhere outside of Europe from 1933 to 1947.

Re:It doesn't cost much to improve someone's life, and we ca... by breppp on Saturday March 15, 2025 @04:56AM (#43371113)
The beauty about the future is that it is unknown. New Zealand might be hardly self-sufficient in a world of economic collapse, might be occupied by the chinese in 20 days in another timeline, or might be the only safe haven where one could eat lamb until they die of a heart attack.

When you are pessimistic any country has a dark future, while judging from history, historical events do not look inevitable before they actually happen, and are hardly expected.

For example, recently half of the world, including many in the west, believed in the inevitable prophecy of socialist utopia, where there will be no private property and everyone will be free of the oppression of capitalism. Millions of lives later and oops

Re:It doesn't cost much to improve someone's life, and we ca... by lurk2 on Saturday March 15, 2025 @04:22PM (#43374922)
> The beauty about the future is that it is unknown

There are factors at play in historical development which make the development predictable.

The Chinese would have to go through half a dozen hostile countries to reach New Zealand. These countries have a combined population of around 300,000,000. Even if the Americans abandon the region, there is no feasible scenario in which the Chinese can afford to invade and occupy New Zealand.

Re:It doesn't cost much to improve someone's life, and we ca... by breppp on Saturday March 15, 2025 @05:45PM (#43375363)
Re:It doesn't cost much to improve someone's life, and we ca... by lurk2 on Saturday March 15, 2025 @05:54PM (#43375394)
This is a map of Japan, they are nowhere near New Zealand, and they lost all of this within three years.
Re:It doesn't cost much to improve someone's life, and we ca... by breppp on Sunday March 16, 2025 @01:02AM (#43377027)
I suggest you look at the distances, I am only pointing to the possibility in a scenario of a non-participating usa