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Re:The Ozempocalypse Is Nigh by jmward01 on Saturday March 15, 2025 @01:18AM (#43370167)
This is actively improving health outcomes for millions of people so of course insurance won't cover it and it is being taken away from consumers. If the shortage is over, why does it cost $1k or even $500? Sounds like there is still a shortage to me. I guess vaccines are out but price gouging is still in in the US healthcare system.
Re:The Ozempocalypse Is Nigh by monkburger on Saturday March 15, 2025 @01:48AM (#43370296)
Profits over patients.

Pharmacies have to have crazy high prices though because PBMs reimburse at such shit rates, based on some percentage of the price given to them. Because if they buy the bottle at $30 and list the price at $60, the PBM contract will only reimburse at the adjusted wholesale price (another made up number), eg: 17% plus a $1.99 dispensing fee. This disgusting math results in getting a loss on the drug.

Even all this leaves out some of the most absurd abuses of PBMs. They set minimum drug copays, have the pharmacy collect a $15 copay for a $5 drug, and have the pharmacy pay the PMB the $10 difference. They make it a breach of contract for the pharmacy to inform the patient this is happening or to charge the $5 and bypass the insurance. The total lack of anything even approaching ethnics is absurd...

Re:The Ozempocalypse Is Nigh by scarab92 on Saturday March 15, 2025 @01:57AM (#43370331)
How should this system work, in an ideal world?
Re:The Ozempocalypse Is Nigh by Centigonal on Saturday March 15, 2025 @02:12AM (#43370379)
Short answer: Systems 1, 3, 12, or 23 in Figure 3 in this paper are pretty good options: https://eclass.ekdd.gr/esdda/modules/document/file.php/KST_B...

This is an extremely politicized question in the US, where a public health insurance option (a solution that's popular in much of the rest of the OECD) is fiercely opposed by a large swath of the population.

At the very least though, in an ideal world, payers, providers, pharmacies, and PBMs should not be allowed to be part of the same company.

Re:The Ozempocalypse Is Nigh by monkburger on Saturday March 15, 2025 @08:29AM (#43372108)
Just force price transparency. Force drug makers to advertise the selling prices of their drugs, and enforce price discrimination laws. Force insurance and PBM companies to advertise the drug prices if purchased through insurance or PBM. Everybody should be paying the same price. And if not, everyone should be allowed to find out if they can pay a lower price.

And yes, get rid of PBMs. They are toxic middlemen who want their 'cut' for doing nothing at all.

See Gale (2023): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10441264/

Re:The Ozempocalypse Is Nigh by kcplate on Saturday March 15, 2025 @08:52AM (#43372210)
My insurance covers it, but it depends on why it’s prescribed.