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Re:"Normal" engineers are the key to great teams by yubblegum on Thursday March 13, 2025 @09:33PM (#43358828)
Yes but imo this change happened no later than late 90s. I distinctly remember how suddenly it became cool to be a programmer and the 'new type' was already making changes by early '00s. And yes, the $s attracted smart people who did not embody the old hacker ethos.

These are the new bloods that gifted us with surveillance tech, btw.

Re:"Normal" engineers are the key to great teams by blendo on Thursday March 13, 2025 @10:04PM (#43358966)
Back in the 90s, they were the “suits”.

Andreessen, Scott McNealy, & Ellison were, to me, the ones that left a particularly bad taste.

Re:"Normal" engineers are the key to great teams by chasd00 on Thursday March 13, 2025 @10:01PM (#43358949)
“Call 1-800 beageek”. Remember that commercial? That was around the time software dev went mainstream, late 90s iirc.
Re:"Normal" engineers are the key to great teams by grandempire on Thursday March 13, 2025 @11:52PM (#43359436)
Mainstream is different than upper middle class and ambitious.