Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules
by umanwizard on Thursday March 13, 2025 @01:48PM
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> But individuals can face serious consequences for obtaining it illegally.
Can they? Who has ever faced serious consequences for pirating books in the US?
Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules
by triceratops on Thursday March 13, 2025 @01:53PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
(Please no pedantry about how scientific papers aren't books)
Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules
by drdaeman on Thursday March 13, 2025 @03:07PM
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Not to diminish the atrocity of what happened to Aaron, but is this a highly abnormal case of prosecutor overzeal or is it common for people to be charged and held liable for downloading and/or consuming (without distribution) of copyrighted materials (in any form) without obtaining a license?
Asking because I genuinely don't know. I believe all I've ever read about persecution of "commonplace" copyright violations was either about distributors or tied to bidirectional nature of peer-to-peer exchange (torrents typically upload to others even as you download = redistribution).
Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules
by nashashmi on Thursday March 13, 2025 @03:19PM
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Aaron Swartz downloaded a lot of stuff. Did he publish the stuff too? That would be an infringement. But only downloading the stuff? And never distributing it? Not sure if it’s worth a violation .
Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules
by mburns on Thursday March 13, 2025 @03:48PM
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>Aaron Swartz downloaded a lot of stuff.
A tiny fraction compared to the 80+ terabytes Facebook downloaded.
>Did he publish the stuff too?
No.
> Not sure if it’s worth a violation .
Exactly.
The analogous scenario is actually "Can I read a book that I obtained illegally and face no consequences for obtaining it illegally?" The answer is "Yes" there are no consequences for reading said book, for individuals or machines.
But individuals can face serious consequences for obtaining it illegally. And corporations are trying to argue those consequences shouldn't apply to them.