Re:Mark Klein, AT&T whistleblower who revealed NSA mass spyi...
by t-3 on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @08:09PM
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From personal experience with police investigations... they aren't really all that inconspicuous when they come aspying. The van with tints several shades darker than the legal limit that sits outside and the trucks with dash-mount computers and racks of equipment visible through the windshield shadowing your every move aren't exactly hard to see if you're paying attention. When they've got telescopic lenses watching from an adjacent building, you can also see those with the naked eye if you look closely. Hopefully national spy agencies are better at it than small town drug task forces, but...
Re:Mark Klein, AT&T whistleblower who revealed NSA mass spyi...
by Lerc on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @09:01PM
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That's an odd take. There are numerous examples of people prosaicly defeating the purpose of something that has taken considerable resources to establish.
It's like the spies working in embassies that were easily detectable despite an elaborate cover because they used the car that the previous spy left behind when they went home.
Re:Mark Klein, AT&T whistleblower who revealed NSA mass spyi...
by dandelany on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @10:17PM
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Perhaps they are optimizing for having plausible deniability/a fully fleshed out backstory in case they are questioned by eg. local cops or a security guard, moreso than inconspicuousness to a random passerby who is unlikely to pose any danger with their idle theorizing
Re:Mark Klein, AT&T whistleblower who revealed NSA mass spyi...
by tptacek on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @10:36PM
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Or, you know, they're inspecting the sewers.
Re:Mark Klein, AT&T whistleblower who revealed NSA mass spyi...
by juliusdavies on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @11:23PM
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I think NSA has hacked the van (without the van operators realizing) and so itβs both a sewer inspection van and an NSA surveillance van at the same time.
Re:Mark Klein, AT&T whistleblower who revealed NSA mass spyi...
by d0mine on Thursday March 13, 2025 @01:41AM
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There is no hack. The system sends data to NSA by design.
Re:Mark Klein, AT&T whistleblower who revealed NSA mass spyi...
by saghm on Thursday March 13, 2025 @12:15AM
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> You can second-guess that, but I think past this point, we're reenacting the duel between Vizzini and Westley
So I guess the reveal is that it _is_ a real sewer inspection van, but the NSA has legitimately been inspecting sewers for years to innoculate themselves from suspicion?
I guess they must be down there looking for rodents of unusual size.
You can second-guess that, but I think past this point, we're reenacting the duel between Vizzini and Westley.