Welcome to the Zero Sum Era. Now How Do We Get Out?

Re:Welcome to the Zero Sum Era. Now How Do We Get Out? by rsynnott on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @05:52AM (#43341419)

In developed countries, there’s not much in the way of mass starvation anymore, and normal people have at least some chance of being able to spend money on things not directly required for survival, of being able to retire, etc. They’re generally literate and have some freedom to move between jobs. They’re unlikely to freeze to death if there’s a bad winter, and so on.

None of this was the case for the vast majority of people two centuries ago!

People not being able to find love seems largely beside the point; that’s not an economic issue, it’s a personal one. You could have a society as fabulously rich or grindingly poor as you like for that.

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Re:Welcome to the Zero Sum Era. Now How Do We Get Out? by harimau777 on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @08:22AM (#43342458)

I don't think that one can separate the economic from the personal. Economics has a huge impact on the way that people interact socially, influences physical health which influences physical attractiveness, has a major impact on mental health, etc.

As far as I can tell, people in the past (at least post serfdom) also had greater opportunity to travel in search of greater opportunity. Today immigration controls make it difficult for people to leave failing countries like the US.

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Re:Welcome to the Zero Sum Era. Now How Do We Get Out? by rsynnott on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @12:09PM (#43344719)

> As far as I can tell, people in the past (at least post serfdom) also had greater opportunity to travel in search of greater opportunity.

... Eh, different challenges, really. By the mid-19th century, adult death rates on transatlantic emigrant ships had fallen to a mere 1-3% (~10% for children), with some spikes into double-digits for adults due to disease. It was a one-way voyage; virtually no-one ever returned.

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