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Re:Ask HN: With trust in Firefox gone, is Chrome-ish the onl... by staticelf on Monday March 10, 2025 @04:12AM (#43318055)
Not really, Mozilla has fired most programmers, increase salaries on leadership and focuses on woke bullshit and hire woke personel to do.. nothing. Firefox is heavily behind Chrome and they continue to lag behind. Mozilla has turn into a political organisation because that is what woke people do. They can't produce anything of value of itself and sucks the value out of anything they touch.

Now, they will probably lose the Google tit that have been funding them for all these years. So naturally they panic and will sell user data when their users are the most fierce regarding this. Just this inability to understand their users is proof that no one at Mozilla no longer understands their fundamental selling points.

Get woke, go broke. It still is true and it's sad that it happened to Firefox. In a better timeline Brendan Eich would still be CEO of that organisation.

Re:Ask HN: With trust in Firefox gone, is Chrome-ish the onl... by crowselect on Monday March 10, 2025 @04:22AM (#43318096)
Mozilla revenue in 2014, the year eich was made ceo: $329.6M

Mozilla revenue in 2015, having “gone woke” and fired him: $421.3M

Go woke go earn 28% more, i guess?

Re:Ask HN: With trust in Firefox gone, is Chrome-ish the onl... by wave-function on Monday March 10, 2025 @04:55AM (#43318276)
Not to throw this discussion on too long a tangent, but this honestly reads in exactly the same way as fawning comments about Putin "saving his country" by presiding over a period of record-high oil prices.

On the bright side, he and his cronies didn't steal absolutely everything, and some scraps made it to the rest of the population.

Mozilla's leadership is a cancer that will kill it, and will take the work of many good, talented technical people down the drain. IRL parallels abound.

Re:Ask HN: With trust in Firefox gone, is Chrome-ish the onl... by crowselect on Monday March 10, 2025 @12:59PM (#43322532)
Listen, mozilla's got problems - we can agree on that, and you don't need to compare me to a putin apologist to make that point.

But "go woke go broke" is dumb sloganeering and plainly false. It's not a description of how the world works - it's a call to arms to boycott things labeled "woke". Sometimes things labeled "woke" do well because of their "wokeness", other times the anti-"woke" backlash kills them. Plenty of things "go woke" without ever being labeled "woke". Plenty of non-"woke" things go broke.

Either way, my only real point in citing revenue numbers is to point out that ten years after the whole Eich debacle, mozilla's still not broke. Seems like maybe their problems are unrelated to "wokeness".

Re:Ask HN: With trust in Firefox gone, is Chrome-ish the onl... by staticelf on Monday March 10, 2025 @04:36AM (#43318178)
And.. where does the revenue come from?

Nearly all increase is from Google and their deal with them, a deal that was done before Brendan became CEO. So the revenue would increase no matter who became CEO.

Re:Ask HN: With trust in Firefox gone, is Chrome-ish the onl... by okkdev on Monday March 10, 2025 @04:53AM (#43318268)
It's such a funny and incredibly stupid rhetoric to blame the "woke".
Re:Ask HN: With trust in Firefox gone, is Chrome-ish the onl... by staticelf on Monday March 10, 2025 @05:09AM (#43318356)
You come here to write that, but you never bother to tell us why?

The issue with "wokeness" is that the people who adhere to these ideologies tries to shoehorn it into every single aspect of their lives and to every single thing they possibly can. Everything must be political, everything is about what they think matter and so on.

That's why you see companies fail so massively when ruled by people like this. They can't help themselves and alienate people, completely unnecessary, and usually turn supporters into haters.