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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by _heimdall on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:24PM (#43310621)
Is there much overlap in Trump and Sanders policy views?

I wouldn't expect voters for either candidate to agree with much from the other candidate, but maybe I don't know their platforms well enough to see the similarities.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by amrocha on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:10PM (#43311162)
The issue is that you think people are voting for policies. I don’t think that’s true anymore, and maybe it never was true.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by _heimdall on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:17PM (#43311266)
Even more reason one wouldn't expect voters to jump candidates or parties.

Given the GP comment I assumed we weren't talking about that scenario where people are only a candidate or party voter.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by amrocha on Sunday March 09, 2025 @02:06PM (#43311899)
I didn’t say that they’re voting for a candidate and would never change their mind either.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by _heimdall on Sunday March 09, 2025 @02:21PM (#43312049)
What are they voting for if not policy views, a particular candidate, or a particular party?
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by amrocha on Monday March 10, 2025 @07:35AM (#43319383)
People vote for a candidate’s vibes but they can change their minds if a better candidate comes along!
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by throwaway48476 on Sunday March 09, 2025 @04:39PM (#43313518)
People are definitely voting for policies. There was a study that found trump spent a higher percent of time talking about policies than Hillary. The PBS documentary on 2016 had an anecdote than in 2016 the trump rally crowd would chant things that became trump policies.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by speed_spread on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:05PM (#43311109)
Trump doesn't "have policy views". Trump _is_ the policy and the view.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by _heimdall on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:20PM (#43311295)
Trump surely has policy views. Maybe they aren't consistent, and he often speaks contradictory to whatever his views are, but you're underestimating him if you believe his has no views. If you consider him a threat, underestimating him sounds dangerous

> Trump _is_ the policy and the view.

That may be true for voters, I know quite a few Trump voters that only care to vote for him and couldn't explain any coherent policy reason for preferring him. That has no bearing on Trump's own policies or views though.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by sangnoir on Sunday March 09, 2025 @03:51PM (#43313031)
> I know quite a few Trump voters that only care to vote for him and couldn't explain any coherent policy reason for preferring him

Perhaps the reasons can't be mentioned in polite company.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by _heimdall on Sunday March 09, 2025 @04:40PM (#43313524)
I assume you mean they're racist. Yes I do know one openly racist person who happened to vite for Trump. I don't think he voted for Trump for that reason though, he's just been a republican voter for decades if I'm not mistaken.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by sangnoir on Sunday March 09, 2025 @09:22PM (#43315918)
No, I mean they'd rather not verbalize why they want Trump in office. Like one of his voters mentioned during his first term when she felt he wasn't "hurting who he's supposed to". A surprising number of Trump voters see him as a tool for retribution against various groups the voters' feel animosity towards. Saying this outright is probably something most are not comfortable to say to you, so they stay vague and non-specific.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by _heimdall on Sunday March 09, 2025 @10:33PM (#43316435)
Gotcha, I totally misread that one.

I would assume the same goes for some Democratic voters as well. There's a lot of hate thrown across the aisle in both directions these days. Maybe it comes more frequently from Trump's supporters, I don't know, but I've been surprised by how much blatant disregard, disrespect, and animosity I've heard from those on the left. The idea of voting for Trump was so foreign to many in the Biden/Harris bubble that anyone willing to vote for Trump must have been crazy or less than.

I didn't vote for Trump (or Harris), but working in the tech industry and mostly around people who would consider themselves progressive or liberal has been pretty eye opening the last few elections. Everyone wants to be inclusive unless its political and they strongly disagree with the other side.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by sangnoir on Monday March 10, 2025 @04:22PM (#43325619)
> I would assume the same goes for some Democratic voters as well

That's an interesting idea. Care to expound on who some Democratic voters were eager for Kamala to "hurt"?