Re:Apple M3 Ultra
by choilive on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @01:03PM
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Also should note that 800/819GB/s of memory bandwidth is actually VERY usable for LLMs. Consider that a 4090 is just a hair above 1000GB/s
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Re:Apple M3 Ultra
by hereonout2 on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @01:59PM
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Does it work like that though at this larger scale? 512GB of VRAM would be across multiple NVIDIA cards, so the bandwidth and access is parallelized.
But here it looks more of a bottleneck from my (admittedly naive) understanding.
For inference the bandwidth is generally not parallelized because the weights need to go through the model layer by layer. The most common model splitting method is done by assigning each GPU a subset of the LLM layers and it doesn't take much bandwidth to send model weights via PCIE to the next GPU.
My understanding is that the GPU must still load its assigned layer from VRAM into registers and L2 cache for every token, because those aren’t large enough to hold a significant portion. So naively, for a 24GB layer, you‘d need to move up to 24GB for every token.
Re:Apple M3 Ultra
by angoragoats on Friday March 07, 2025 @08:50AM
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But the memory bandwidth is only part of the equation; the 4090 is at least several times faster at compute compared to the fastest Apple CPU/GPU.