Re:The Demoralization is just Beginning
by tokioyoyo on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @02:27AM
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I swear, “Chinese collapse” has been on the news headlines since 2000s. At some point people need to give up on the idea that their system doesn’t work. Yes, it sucks from our perspective, because we would have less rights and freedom. But quality of life of an average Chinese has been increasing YoY, despite some hiccups. They obviously screw up big time (pandemic lockdowns, current above average youth unemployment), but they don’t mind pivoting hard. Baseless hate when a country fails to compete is just sad to watch as an outsider who has no skin in the game.
Re:The Demoralization is just Beginning
by cookiemonsieur on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @05:03AM
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It's a coping mechanism that needs to be parroted to keep the people in the west from questioning the status quo. "Look china/russia/iran/india bad ! Sure, we're not doing well and your quality of life is eroding year on year but hey ! In china you can't question tienanmen square so there's that"
It's sad, but as long as people continue to believe in this mythology of "absolute freedom", it will continue to work.
Re:The Demoralization is just Beginning
by throwawayq3423 on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @05:21PM
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I don't know anyone trying to move to china/russia/iran/india. The outflows however continue to be extensive.
Re:The Demoralization is just Beginning
by cookiemonsieur on Thursday March 06, 2025 @04:08AM
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A lot of people are moving to Russia China and India from non western nations that use to send their top talents to the EU/US.
Re:The Demoralization is just Beginning
by throwawayq3423 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @12:48PM
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A lot of people are moving to Russia, now? China also has seen their ex-pat communities reduced by 90% since Covid.
Re:The Demoralization is just Beginning
by cookiemonsieur on Friday March 07, 2025 @03:55AM
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ex-pat meaning westerners right ? You do know the world doesn't revolve around the west ?
Re:The Demoralization is just Beginning
by throwawayq3423 on Monday March 10, 2025 @12:51PM
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I did, but those numbers include all foreigners. Where are you getting your data from?
China is not motivated by what makes economic sense. The party openly says this - the very fact corporations exist is a concession to not having achieved pure communism yet. The party openly hates the fact they need an economy, after having failed for the first few decades to operate without one.
All it takes, quite literally, is one hardcore communist after Xi who isn’t afraid of a second cultural revolution. Maybe a chance to fix all their consumption, housing, and youth issues once and for all in one painful societal restructuring? The very economic and social issues we point to as why they would never do it, I fear, might actually become reasons they will do it.