Re:Launch HN: Enhanced Radar (YC W25) – A safety net for air...
by jimnotgym on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @04:16PM
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Isn't it because AM audio is still understandable under very suboptimal conditions where digital might not get through? Digital narrowband data modes tend to pass very small amounts of data
Re:Launch HN: Enhanced Radar (YC W25) – A safety net for air...
by lxe on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @04:48PM
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Quite the opposite. For short messages digital modes can employ layers of redundancy, auto carrier recovery, error correction at all layers all while yielding lower power requirements, and longer distance.
Re:Launch HN: Enhanced Radar (YC W25) – A safety net for air...
by EricButton on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @06:51PM
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FAA actually tried moving to digital voice (has benefits wrt airband congestion) but it didn't go anywhere. I believe a lot came down to the minimal benefit over current solutions, plus the coordination and safety implications of actually making the switch. Tough for an FAA official to pull the trigger on a rollout that has even 0.1% chance of an aircraft crashing.
Re:Launch HN: Enhanced Radar (YC W25) – A safety net for air...
by dehrmann on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @09:29PM
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A lot of ATC seems to use lowest common denominator tech so that you an fly a Cessna into JFK.
Re:Launch HN: Enhanced Radar (YC W25) – A safety net for air...
by kristian1109 on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @12:02AM
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But only after 1am when you're not fighting a 15 knot headwind with an A320 cleared number two.
Re:Launch HN: Enhanced Radar (YC W25) – A safety net for air...
by DF1PAW on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @05:11PM
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AM modulation is perfectly justified in this context: if two (or more) stations accidentally transmit at the same time, this will be noticed. Using FM, only the stronger signal wins and the other signal remains undetected. The advantage over digital transmission is the lack of coding overhead - the voice reaches the receiver without any time delay.
Re:Launch HN: Enhanced Radar (YC W25) – A safety net for air...
by jlewallen on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @06:20PM
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This is true, for anybody curious about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_effect
Re:Launch HN: Enhanced Radar (YC W25) – A safety net for air...
by lxe on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @09:30PM
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The justification still holds, but better tech with the same benefits exists nowadays.
As far as digital decoding delay is concerned, this is a negligible number if implemented correctly.
Why do we still rely on analog narrowband AM voice over VHF to do vital comms like air traffic control? Same way as we did in the 1940s!
We should be transcribing the messages and relaying them digitally with signatures and receipt acknowledgement.