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Re:Solarpunk by KPGv2 on Sunday March 02, 2025 @08:31PM (#43237356)
Well, you replace bricks every couple hundred years, but solar panels every 10–20, right? Also a 2000W solar panel is like $300 or something and it's half the size of a door.

Unless a building is crowd-funded by the future tenants with the promise of no electrical costs, and also the future tenants expect to live like 100 more years, I can't see how this could happen, short of the eradication of private property and the government constructing these things.

Re:Solarpunk by Chilko on Sunday March 02, 2025 @10:17PM (#43237949)
I get where you're coming from, but let me correct some of your numbers for other readers:

> you replace bricks every couple hundred years, but solar panels every 10–20, right?

Old panels perhaps, but modern solar panels come with performance warranties that guarantee they will be producing >85% of their initial output after 30 yrs.

> 2000W solar panel is like $300 or something and it's half the size of a door

2000W solar panels generally don't exist, so I assume that's a typo for 200W? Modern utility scale panels top out at ~700W with dimensions of 2.4 m x 1.3 m, however rooftop panels for commercial buildings are in the 500W range and ~ 2 x 1 m (so yeah about a door). International wholesale prices for these from Tier 1 manufacturers are now < $0.10 USD / W (although from what I understand more expensive in the USA).

Re:Solarpunk by Wickedflickr on Sunday March 02, 2025 @08:48PM (#43237448)
Housing co-ops would be incentivized to implement those features. Our society should make it easier for co-op of all types to be created and thrive (such as through taxes), but especially worker owned and housing co-ops.
Re:Solarpunk by Tepix on Monday March 03, 2025 @03:38AM (#43239658)
You can get 500W solar panels for less than 40€ these days, so 150€ or so for 2000W. At German electricity prices, they pay for themselves very quickly!