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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by elihu on Friday February 28, 2025 @09:56PM (#43215237)
I initially saw just the latter part of the meeting where the conflict happens and it seemed like a premeditated thing, but after finding a video that shows the meeting from the beginning[1], I agree that it comes across differently.

It seems like they were having a pretty good meeting, right up until Vance decides to interject his stupid talking points, and then the exchange between Vance and Zelensky gets Trump to launch into his bizarre grievance tirade. It's like dementia was in full-self-driving mode and had no brakes.

Maybe Vance got what he wanted out of this meeting, but I could plausibly believe that Trump wasn't planning for it to blow up like this -- he just didn't have the level of self-control or self-awareness to stop himself. Which isn't exactly a good look either.

[1] https://youtu.be/Y7QxUHdvpk8?t=8693

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by t0lo on Saturday March 01, 2025 @06:04AM (#43218116)
Doesn't mean they both aren't irredeemably compromised and there isnt mountains of kompromat on dt