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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by bilbo0s on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:34PM (#43212605)
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but humor me for a second.

Let's say that Putin is not the only person in Russian leadership who supports war with Ukraine. What then? I mean we get rid of Putin, and the next guy is worse.

I know. I know. That would never happen in a million years. But humor me. What then? Do we have a plan for "we took out Putin and it didn't change anything"?

Or is this whole thing just a fly by the seat of the pants kind of thing?

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by ben_w on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:44PM (#43212719)
> I don't mean to rain on your parade, but humor me for a second.

Feel free, this is no parade for me. And if anyone is taking me seriously*, they need serious alternatives to my beliefs.

* which would be their first mistake, as I'm a software engineer not a geopolitical military analyst

> I mean we get rid of Putin, and the next guy is worse

What would "worse" look like?

Putin is already at war, has a massive propaganda network and fake elections, yet still feels unable to have another round of mobilisation due to the internal political fallout.

Putin is already threatening nuclear weapons, has already updated doctrine — "The doctrine now says an attack from a non-nuclear state, if backed by a nuclear power, will be treated as a joint assault on Russia." - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4v0rey0jzo

The only way to be worse, is to actually use them.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by bilbo0s on Friday February 28, 2025 @05:53PM (#43212832)
The only way to be worse, is to actually use them.

Then you're starting to see my point.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by ben_w on Friday February 28, 2025 @06:19PM (#43213128)
Would you rather surrender salami style, or the whole bratwurst?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-UqIIvang

Putin is already a threat, without actually using the weapons.