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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by killerstorm on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:50PM (#43210503)
You can ask CharGPT what "interests" mean in this context, it can give you a comprehensive explanation connecting these interests to GDP and quality of life of US citizens in the long term. You no longer can play stupid.

FWIW US spent less than 100B in 3 years of war, it's nothing compared to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. And it serves an important function, "every cent counts!" makes no sense here as the goal is to prevent bigger confrontation in the future

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by terminatornet on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:55PM (#43210632)
CharGPT
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by WitCanStain on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:39PM (#43210317)
Risking American lives? How many Americans have died in the war as a result of US aid?
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by gabelschlager on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:42PM (#43210366)
>Zelensky implied Russia would invade the U.S. Do you think that’s likely?

He did not. What he did say is, that should Russia start to expand the war to other countries (as is very likely if Ukraine falls), these effects will be felt by the people in the US.

That statement is obviously true. The effects of the Ukraine war could also be felt, as it affected the economy across the globe.

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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by wcarss on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:58PM (#43210690)
keep those goalposts moving; the soul of a good faith argument here
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by reducesuffering on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:55PM (#43210623)
The Baltics, which we have very serious contracts to defend with American lives, including drafting our children if it spirals.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by soulofmischief on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:44PM (#43210409)
> We cannot continue spending trillions of dollars and risking American lives based on weasel words like “interests” and “allies.” Say what you really mean.

What he means is whatever Russia is interested in doing, Trump is motivated to agree to given his open, well-documented idolization of Putin and other dictators, making us effective allies. Your attempts to devalue OP's argument like pretending he is being too vague are quite trasparent and do not hold up to scrutiny. Instead, you need to prove why Trump's recent behavior and remarks toward Putin don't establish us as allies with shared interests.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by pnemonic on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:46PM (#43210440)
> Say what you mean

You ought to take your own advice, buddy.

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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by ziddoap on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:42PM (#43210361)
>It takes a little more comprehension skills to understand words. I understand if you didn't get that comprehensive education.

I vehemently disagree with rayiner, often, but you personally attacking them only serves to weaken your position.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by nine_zeros on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:45PM (#43210423)
> I vehemently disagree with rayiner, often, but you personally attacking them only serves to weaken your position.

Glad you see the reality. I don't care about my position but only the reality.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by DiggyJohnson on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:48PM (#43210482)
> It takes a little more comprehension skills to understand words. I understand if you didn't get that comprehensive education.

Like the sibling comment says, this is an embarrassing way to cap out an otherwise reasonable comment.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by rayiner on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:47PM (#43210453)
You think Russia is going to nuke America if Ukraine loses the war?
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by wcarss on Friday February 28, 2025 @04:03PM (#43210800)
> He said that it could come to American shores - the bite, the cyberwar, the nukes - not necessarily only the army.

> You think Russia is going to nuke America if Ukraine loses the war?

jump right to the most extreme possible claim to pull from the above and _strrrretch_ it -- impeccable form! It's not even a logical fallacy, it's just lying about what the person before you said, presented as though they look foolish for saying it. Smooth, hollow, soulless stuff.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by nine_zeros on Friday February 28, 2025 @03:58PM (#43210678)
> You think Russia is going to nuke America if Ukraine loses the war?

No. But can it escalate to that via cyber attacks, territorial attacks, and global warfare? Yes.

Rule number 1 of untrustworthy counterparties: They will always be untrustworthy, even if they are temporarily friendly.