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Re:Andrew Tate and brother leave Romania for US after travel... by tmp202502 on Thursday February 27, 2025 @08:22AM (#43194135)
Tate is not a hardcore convert to anything. Tate's Islam conversion is about two things:

1) putting up a flag to find somewhere comfortable without an extradition treaty where his views are normal

2) seeking narcissistic supply from an easily identified demographic: angry, wealthy young muslim men in repressive countries. He's stylised himself like that: like the wealthy son of an exiled Emirati.

He's a malignant narcissist: broken, cold, and lonely inside in a way that only adoration can fix.

As it goes, Tate shares with Musk and Trump a genuinely tragic origin story of adoring a bullying, abusive, cold, father. (With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's)

The paradox of this world is that if Trump, Musk and Tate sat down, talked and cried together about the abuse and coldness of their early years -- their utterly broken childhood -- then masculine culture and the world might get somewhere.

Re:Andrew Tate and brother leave Romania for US after travel... by godsinhisheaven on Thursday February 27, 2025 @08:46AM (#43194308)
Thats the thing about neurodivergence, it's a double edged sword I feel like. Like, all of the great men of history were extremely likely to be neurodivergent, so if you're a normal person with no mental illness, you kind of just know you won't be the next Thomas Edison or Genghis Khan. At the same time, you're a normal person, so you won't like, do something crazy like electrocute an elephant or kill millions of people.
Re:Andrew Tate and brother leave Romania for US after travel... by acdha on Thursday February 27, 2025 @08:55AM (#43194382)
> With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's

Have any of them have actually been diagnosed? If not, I would consider whether that’s a genuine factor or an attempt to use the neurodivergent community as a shield.

Re:Andrew Tate and brother leave Romania for US after travel... by bediger4000 on Thursday February 27, 2025 @09:35AM (#43194719)
I kind of doubt Trump suffers from ADHD. He's pretty clearly old, tired, and has that weird born-into-money thing were he believes he just can't fail, so every normal person around him goes along with it. I don't know what that's called.
Re:Andrew Tate and brother leave Romania for US after travel... by tmp202502 on Thursday February 27, 2025 @09:14AM (#43194547)
No. To be fair, these are my guessed diagnoses.

Is Musk neurodivergent? Very obviously. He says he has autism but he clearly displays traits of ADHD (that I recognise in myself).

Is Andrew Tate autistic? Hell yes! It's so obvious.

Is Trump ADHD? I personally think so. (He also shows signs of dyslexia).

But at any rate what I was getting at is: they were odd kids, underperforming perhaps relative to their awful fathers' expectations.

Google Fred Trump Sr, Emory Tate, Errol Musk. These are parents from the dark triad.

I would feel pity for any of them at some level; I definitely do feel pity for Elon Musk, whose awful father is not gone, and who is clearly heading towards narcissistic injury that would drive anyone insane.