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Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by tlogan on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @07:24PM (#43189925)
Here’s something interesting: I currently have 4,798 karma on HN. But every time I say anything even slightly conservative, my karma drops by 10. If I had stayed quiet, I’d probably have 10,000 by now. But karma isn’t money, so I don’t care.

What this really shows is how difficult it is to say anything that goes against what I see as progressive orthodoxy on this site or on internet.

For example, here are things I apparently cannot complain about:

- I support high-speed rail 100%, but I can’t point out that it never actually gets built.

- I can’t criticize the fact that public schools were closed during COVID while private schools remained open.

- I can’t mention that SF Opera required both ID and proof of vaccination to attend a show—while you can vote without an ID. (Yes, I raised this issue with them. Fortunately, I have some Eastern European friends, so I wasn’t banned forever.)

Honestly, I want to be on the left. I’d love to just focus on two things:

- Medicare for all (even if it’s crappy, at least it’s for everyone).

- Massive investment in fusion energy.

But apparently, that’s not enough.

So this is reason why WP needs to change. And the entire Democratic party.

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by guelo on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @07:44PM (#43190077)
With your sample size of n=1 you came to the wrong conclusion about HN moderation. To then expand that experience to justify tearing society apart is quite the reach.
Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by Vaslo on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @08:33PM (#43190338)
> Tearing down society

Yikes, very dramatic view. Exactly what OP is referencing.

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by leocgcd on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @07:47PM (#43190098)
Why do you talk about these things like you "can't." You obviously can. You made the post. Losing karma is engagement with your post.

I would like to think the truly right-wing-- in it's best sense-- attitude would be an appreciation for the ability to openly voice these opinions and the ability for people to openly disagree with you. If you're getting downvoted by individuals for your criticism of a private opera house's policies, that's a win for personal liberties, not an indictment of them.

I don't mean to strawman, but it seems like you're advocating for the exact opposite of what you claim. You want an authority to step in and tell these people downvoting you that they can't have their opinions? You want your viewpoints to have a certain number of mandated agreements?

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by anthony_d on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @09:30PM (#43190697)
We don’t have a way to up and down vote agreement. We can only vote on whether a comment should be displayed. That’s not engagement, it’s a fundamentally different concept.
Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by kelnos on Thursday February 27, 2025 @06:09AM (#43193277)
Sure we do. pg & dang have said in the past that agreement/disagreement is a perfectly reasonable use of the up & downvote buttons.
Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by kevingadd on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @07:30PM (#43189976)
I am struggling to see the connection between the body of your post and the WP's editorial changes, but to engage with your post as a leftist for a moment:

- When you say you were criticizing HSR and got downvoted for it, is it because you were promoting Elon or Hyperloop in the same post? Were you arguing against public transit? I can't really imagine a good reason to downvote a post just for basic criticism, but I can imagine people seeing something that smells like Elon boosterism and downvoting that. (I don't, personally.)

- Criticizing public school closures without having a solid foundation behind the argument is probably a good way to earn a downvote from people who value human lives over schools staying open. During the early days, COVID was killing a lot of people. You can argue over where we should have struck the balance there, and there's data to support that we did it incorrectly. But people who remember losing loved ones to COVID will naturally get heated over 'we did too much'-type takes so I can understand how you'd catch downvotes for that.

- ID requirements for things with ticketing are pretty boring and commonplace? I can't remember the last time ID wasn't required for a ticketed event I went to, though it's been years now thanks to COVID. So what you've described here - interpreted generously - would have come across as an attempt to complain about vaccination requirements being clumsily masked by throwing in the ID requirement. I don't know the actual tone and content of the post though.

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by immibis on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @08:23PM (#43190283)
Your comment in a nutshell:

> Am I out of touch? No, it's the progressives who are wrong!

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by shepherdjerred on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @08:54PM (#43190443)
Clearly progressives aren't right given the most recent election
Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by immibis on Thursday February 27, 2025 @06:07AM (#43193267)
Is the majority* always right?

* of voting power

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by shepherdjerred on Saturday March 01, 2025 @12:50PM (#43221659)
In a democracy the majority is right if you’re seeking their vote

On other matters… not so useful

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by Vaslo on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @08:31PM (#43190333)
Your comment in a nutshell:

> Is OP out of touch? Yes, because HN is definitely and absolutely a representative sample of the population and is never wrong!

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by archagon on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @08:51PM (#43190429)
Your conclusion does not follow from your premise. This sounds like a mildly center-right position, which is very far from where the current administration and its backers are veering.

(I upvoted because the comment isn't unreasonable and doesn't deserve to be greyed out. Indeed, my liberal friends share a number of your concerns. But I do disagree, since as I see it, left-leaning media is largely dead in this country and a WaPo aligned with the Trump administration won't get you any closer to Medicare for all or clean/fusion energy.)

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by bn-l on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @09:08PM (#43190529)
I also stay quiet on modern orthodoxy. I don’t think its believers engage fairly or dispassionately. And that’s not a good strategy for its adherents because you then have a much much larger silent majority and that can lead to the unexpected.
Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by blackeyeblitzar on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @10:13PM (#43190932)
Agree, I’ve experienced the same with respect to karma. HN is proof of the immense political bias of the tech world, especially in the Bay Area.
Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by Aloisius on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @10:45PM (#43191118)
> I can’t mention that SF Opera required both ID and proof of vaccination to attend a show—while you can vote without an ID.

What's the complaint? That private businesses can put more restrictions on visitors than the government can on limiting people's ability to perform their civic duty by exercising a fundamental right enshrined in the Constitution?

> Fortunately, I have some Eastern European friends, so I wasn’t banned forever.

What does this mean?

Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by rexpop on Thursday February 27, 2025 @02:04AM (#43192036)
Funny, I feel like I'm penalized for not agreeing with conservative, jingoistic genocide-denialism and for not pretending, as conservatives do, that racism ended with MLK's assassination.
Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by insane_dreamer on Thursday February 27, 2025 @11:17AM (#43195744)
What does any of this have to do with Bezos deciding a national newspaper (one of only 2-3 remaining) won't publish opinion pieces that contradict his world view which now just happens to align with that of the current administration (an administration led by the richest man in the world who also publicly threatens journalists who publish stuff he doesn't like?)
Re:Jeff Bezos' revamp of 'Washington Post' opinions leads ed... by arp242 on Thursday February 27, 2025 @05:34PM (#43199302)
If all your "slightly conservative" post are rants that have nothing to do with the article in any shape or form, then no, I'm not surprised you're getting consistently downvoted.