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Re:Bezos Exerts Control of WaPo Opinion to Focus on Personal... by rayiner on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @07:12PM (#43189840)
Destruction to the built environment is an offense against society. 25 people were killed in the riots and there was $2 billion in property damage. My neighborhood in Baltimore never recovered after the Freddie Gray riots. Our fro-yo place had the windows smashed in and closed. The coffee shop on my wife’s office block never reopened. The harm to the public lasts long after the rioting is over.

You didn’t see worse at the capitol, because that was a riot at a government building and private sector people were not at risk.

Re:Bezos Exerts Control of WaPo Opinion to Focus on Personal... by mmooss on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @07:47PM (#43190100)
> Destruction to the built environment is an offense against society.

If someone crashes into a streetlight, is that an offense against society? Obviously not.

> 25 people were killed in the riots and there was $2 billion in property damage.

In the entire country? And is there a source for it?

Sorry about your fro-yo and coffee. The places I know have long forgotten the 'riots'.

> private sector people were not at risk.

People died. Does it not matter because they worked for the government? How about the democracy and government of people in the private sector? I think boiling it down to property is much too convenient.

Re:Bezos Exerts Control of WaPo Opinion to Focus on Personal... by rayiner on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @07:55PM (#43190162)
> If someone crashes into a streetlight, is that an offense against society?

If you do it on purpose, yes.

> Sorry about your fro-yo and coffee. The places I know have long forgotten the 'riots'.

There’s tons of evidence that riots lead to long term depopulation of the neighborhoods where they happened.

> Does it not matter because they worked for the government?

Yes. This is America, not Europe: https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jeffers...

Re:Bezos Exerts Control of WaPo Opinion to Focus on Personal... by mmooss on Thursday February 27, 2025 @02:50AM (#43192244)
> > If someone crashes into a streetlight, is that an offense against society?

> If you do it on purpose, yes.

Well I guess "an offense against society" is undefined, but that is an extreme reaction. There are matters of degree in everything, and those degrees are everything. The state prosecutes lots of crimes, from shoplifting to mass murder - to call them all "an offense against society" becomes meaningless.

> > Does it not matter because they worked for the government?

> Yes.

Killing people doesn't matter if those people work for the government. Wow.

Re:Bezos Exerts Control of WaPo Opinion to Focus on Personal... by abduhl on Wednesday February 26, 2025 @11:42PM (#43191433)
>> If someone crashes into a streetlight, is that an offense against society? Obviously not.

That’s literally what it is. That’s why the court case is styled State/Commonwealth/People v. Streetlightcrasher. You can quibble about whether the government “is” society but that argument makes you sound like a fringe libertarian.

Re:Bezos Exerts Control of WaPo Opinion to Focus on Personal... by mmooss on Thursday February 27, 2025 @02:52AM (#43192248)
I think we are getting into a philosophical debate of literalism. Other than that, nobody would call it "an offense against society".
Re:Bezos Exerts Control of WaPo Opinion to Focus on Personal... by abduhl on Thursday February 27, 2025 @10:52AM (#43195486)
It sounds like you don’t understand what the word “offense” means. The literal meaning of offense is a crime. If you crash into a street light and damage it (purposely, probably also negligently) then it is literally an offense against society.

offense: an illegal act; a crime

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/offen...

Re:Bezos Exerts Control of WaPo Opinion to Focus on Personal... by mmooss on Thursday February 27, 2025 @12:52PM (#43196675)
That's what I meant by literalism.