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Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by mech9879876 on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @09:29AM (#43172289)
If you were comparing gasoline in a car to an EV I would maybe see what you are talking about- engines are like 30% efficient so the conversion to useful energy requires a large multiple of potential energy.

But in the case of an oil- or gas- fired furnace, their thermal efficiency is at least 80%, and often more, so their potential energy usage is close enough to directly comparable to their heating value.

Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by _aavaa_ on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @09:36AM (#43172381)
I don’t know that I disagreed with you. Yes it might be close to their heating value but it’s fundamentally measuring something different.
Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by ryao on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @03:01PM (#43176563)
Energy usage as does not care about whether any of the energy is wasted. If it did, a 100W incandescent light bulbs would only use 1W of power.
Re:Closing the "green gap": energy savings from the math of ... by ryao on Tuesday February 25, 2025 @02:52PM (#43176461)
Mine was 86% efficient, although for accounting purposes, I considered the waste energy to be part of energy consumption, which seems to be the most sensible way of doing it.