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Re:It is no longer safe to move our governments and societie... by dmantis on Sunday February 23, 2025 @11:31AM (#43150561)
The world literally has hard proofs of mass espionage by the NSA and CIA after Snowden and Wikileaks Vault 7. Moving your government secrets to the US cloud has been madness for at least 12 years.
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Re:It is no longer safe to move our governments and societie... by rcpt on Sunday February 23, 2025 @11:42AM (#43150702)
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1401_08-12_mickens.pdf

Alright so get a magical amulet.

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Re:It is no longer safe to move our governments and societie... by dmantis on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:25AM (#43205310)
It's not a boolean value, I don't get the irony.

If China and Russia can somehow solve the issue and manage their infra, I don't see why EU, for example, can't.

It's better to have at least partially protected your whole government and citizens data than having it handed directly to the foreign intelligence in bulk. That's the question about political will, we don't talk about average Joe here.

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Re:It is no longer safe to move our governments and societie... by raverbashing on Sunday February 23, 2025 @11:41AM (#43150684)
Cool, encrypt everything before uploading. Keep the key client-side

See, parent is right? Safe/not safe dichotomy helps nobody

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Re:It is no longer safe to move our governments and societie... by ta988 on Sunday February 23, 2025 @12:33PM (#43151191)
I didn't know that computation on encrypted data without decryption was solved overnight.
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Re:It is no longer safe to move our governments and societie... by erikerikson on Sunday February 23, 2025 @02:19PM (#43152222)
It seems like you might be aware of limitations but for those who aren't aware of the technique:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homomorphic_encryption

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Re:It is no longer safe to move our governments and societie... by eesmith on Monday February 24, 2025 @07:08AM (#43158608)
When I last looked into it, the compute overhead was very high, such that (for the tasks I was looking at) it seemed significantly cheaper to handle everything on-premises with trusted hardware than remotely on untrusted hardware.

To be clear, this was 10 years ago so things may have changed. Also, my task was memory bandwidth limited, where even changing the memory access patterns slowed things down by 10% or more.

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