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Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by LargeWu on Saturday February 22, 2025 @07:12PM (#43144733)
Scaling with GDP, rather than population, implies that government spending is scaling with the country's ability to provide services commensurate with prosperity.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by enriquec on Saturday February 22, 2025 @07:26PM (#43144861)
Who said the problem is solely deficits? I don't think spending should just "scale" with anything and there is empirical evidence that that is a horrible way to run an economy.

You are literally just suggesting we spend more no matter what. Obviously, there is a massive difference in types of spending right? And we have an incredible amount of bad spending. In fact, in places like public education and health, we continue to spend more to get worse outcomes.

You're making large, sweeping generalizations and most of the positions espoused are more political than scientific.

Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by LargeWu on Saturday February 22, 2025 @08:17PM (#43145209)
"Bad spending", according to who?

Conservatively, 20% of the nation's wealth goes to the top 1%. The people who need it the least.

I can buy the argument that we could be more effective with spending, but not with the idea that we need less wealth transfer from rich to poor.

Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by dcow on Sunday February 23, 2025 @12:20AM (#43146816)
The entire premise is to cut wasteful, corrupt, and ineffective spending. I’m sure nobody will agree with every single line item cut, but generally throwing money away on ineffective and fraudulent spend isn’t contributing to wealth transfer. Putting “bad spending” in quotes like none of the spend being cut is actually bad is disingenuous. If you tax the wealthy and get $100, but 95 of them end up in landing in other wealthy people’s pockets along the way, the people who need it aren’t winning. if you can remove $90 of waste, give the people who need it $20 instead of $5 and spend $5 to grease the wheels, you’ve cut spending 3 fold while transferring more wealth.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by bandrami on Sunday February 23, 2025 @04:37AM (#43148063)
Then why are we talking about personnel at all? That's like 3% of spending. The only way to achieve actual savings is to reduce program spending, which isn't even an executive power.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by dcow on Sunday February 23, 2025 @08:00AM (#43148948)
They aren’t just talking about personnel.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by bandrami on Sunday February 23, 2025 @11:23AM (#43150446)
What else does it do?

You understand that firing a program manager doesn't de-obligate the spending of the program he managed, right? Because I'm seeing a lot of people online who don't seem to grasp that.

Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by dcow on Sunday February 23, 2025 @01:44PM (#43151869)
I believe the expectation is that congress will officially deallocate spending that was deemed wasteful. We shall see.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by bandrami on Monday February 24, 2025 @05:16AM (#43157854)
Congress will be lucky if they can patch together a CR and not default on the national debt. Have you seen these guys?
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by AnthonyMouse on Saturday February 22, 2025 @09:53PM (#43145943)
> Scaling with GDP, rather than population, implies that government spending is scaling with the country's ability to provide services commensurate with prosperity.

This is only true if the value of government services increases over time and not just their cost. If GDP doubles and the government then spends twice as many real dollars to provide the same level of services as before, all you've done is cut efficiency in half.