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Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by rayiner on Saturday February 22, 2025 @03:21PM (#43142794)
Trump Derangement Syndrome is worse than Trump. I’m an immigrant from Bangladesh who is in the country because my dad got a job with USAID. In the Bush era, liberals would have been shocked if we found out USAID spent $29 million under Biden interfering with elections in Bangladesh. https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/foreign-affairs/3744.... Now you mention it and get some neocon nonsense about “American interests.” Truly disgusting.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by kadoban on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:09PM (#43143244)
You're taking the word of a liar as gospel truth, and you're attributing responses to "liberals" from nowhere. Which "liberals"?
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by leereeves on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:13PM (#43143289)
It sounds like he knows personally what USAID did in Bangladesh.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by rayiner on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:58PM (#43143688)
I’m from Bangladesh and my dad worked his entire career for USAID contractors, since the 1980s. Many of our family friends are career USAID people. My dad can’t be sure but he strongly suspects Trump is correct. USAID was commonly used as a CIA/State Department front in the past. It became more professional in the 1990s, but according to him Samantha Powers heavily politicized the agency. And the US administration has been going crazy about third world countries aligning themselves with Russia.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by jajko on Saturday February 22, 2025 @05:31PM (#43143947)
Well, whats your point? All spy agencies including russian use similar movements to destabilize enemies, it was true during whole cold era. Is this somehow shocking to anybody?

US agencies did much worse things in pursue of eliminating communism, in US and elsewhere.

Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by sudosysgen on Saturday February 22, 2025 @03:54PM (#43143121)
In the Obama era, you could have told an average liberal about it and they'd ignore it or apologize for it. It's not Trump Derangement Syndrome, it's just an artefact of substantial policy disagreements between parties in terms of foreign policy goals being low historically, and mass media minimizing imperialism.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by leereeves on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:11PM (#43143270)
People aren't just ignoring the imperialism; they're outraged that Trump is shutting it down.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by sterlind on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:42PM (#43143556)
Buying Greenland, annexing Canada, retaking the Panama Canal, building beachfront resorts in Gaza and squeezing $500B of rare earth minerals out of Ukraine isn't imperialism?

Or does Trump get a pass on what he says he'll do, because it's just trolling to trigger the libs?

Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by rayiner on Saturday February 22, 2025 @05:04PM (#43143752)
Obviously the trolling is different from actually doing. And what the substance of what Trump did with Panama was accuse it of failing to respect the neutrality provisions of the treaty which transferred control of the canal to Panama. And in Ukraine he’s demanding security for hundreds of billions in support we have provided that country. Exercising America’s rights under treaties or demanding compensation for military support is hardly comparable to bankrolling dissident groups in foreign countries.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by leereeves on Saturday February 22, 2025 @05:40PM (#43144015)
I'd much rather have a President who says dumb things for attention than a President who actually tries (usually in secret) to destabilize other countries.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by rayiner on Saturday February 22, 2025 @04:59PM (#43143706)
Because Obama was fully co-opted by the neocon institutions. If you had told them about it during the Bush era liberals would have been outraged.

The creators of South Park literally made a movie mocking the neocon ideology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_America:_World_Police

Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by sudosysgen on Saturday February 22, 2025 @05:19PM (#43143849)
Yes, the Democratic party was coopted by neocons since Bill Clinton. That's the point of my comment, it has nothing to do with Trump.
Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by refurb on Saturday February 22, 2025 @11:42PM (#43146609)
Really? 10 years I would have assume the average liberal would have said "Yeah, what else is new? The US has been interfering with other countries since forever. It's a terrible stain on our history and something we should stop.

For some odd reason the average liberal is now arguing for foreign interference by the US. The are using the same neocon talking points the Republicans did 10 years ago - "soft power" and "if we don't do it someone else will".

It's wild to sit back and think about.

Re:DOGE's Only Public Ledger Is Riddled with Mistakes by sudosysgen on Sunday February 23, 2025 @01:17AM (#43147140)
I remember very vividly liberals 10, 15 years ago defending "good" foreign interference for example in Syria, for example.