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Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by dismalaf on Friday February 21, 2025 @08:59AM (#43127478)
> Trump and all his supporters are enemies of the state.

Are they, like, officially? Maybe Biden should have been tougher on Russia, you'd have to declare them an an enemy first for Trump to be committing treason by conspiring with them...

Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by riehwvfbk on Friday February 21, 2025 @09:07AM (#43127582)
Conspiring: ending the flow of unaccountable billions of dollars towards a useless war. You guys on payroll? Advocating for civil war and such?
Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by snakeyjake on Friday February 21, 2025 @11:19AM (#43129303)
Killing Russian soldiers in Ukraine is the simplest, purest, example of a righteous fight against evil in living memory.

All money spent on war is unaccountable unless you go and pick up every bullet fragment, shell casing, and shrapnel piece afterwards and account its disposition.

Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by rightbyte on Friday February 21, 2025 @09:19AM (#43127720)
Well the US elite has to change the narrative slower. It is bad for the mental health of people to be so sudden.

As Biden cooperated with Trump on the issue as noted in the article it might be a good time to announce that now.

Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by dismalaf on Friday February 21, 2025 @09:15AM (#43127672)
Ending flow of unaccountable money: probably a good thing for US budgets.

I'm not American FYI but as an outside observer it does appear as though Trump is alienating all of the US' traditional allies and destroying the "Pax Americana". Handing Taiwan to China, embracing a murderous rogue state (Russia) that's also too poor to actually be beneficial while alienating the second largest economy in the world (the EU) all seem to be bad for maintaining America's place in the world.

I mean, it's obviously not treason since as I pointed out, no one ever actually officially declared Russia the enemy, but do you really think it's a good idea?

Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by anon2549 on Friday February 21, 2025 @10:00AM (#43128202)
If the funding is the issue, then we could just end that. That could be done without selling out Ukraine and rewarding Russia for invading neighboring nations.

> it's obviously not treason

I suspect he meant morally, not legally. The present administration appears to be doing everything possible to destroy the US from within. Call that what you will.

Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by rightbyte on Friday February 21, 2025 @09:33AM (#43127857)
It might be unrealistic to ask for Trump to have diplomatic prowess.
Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by beretguy on Friday February 21, 2025 @01:12PM (#43130892)
> Maybe Biden should have been tougher on Russia

He definitely should have and his weak response is a major part of the reason the war is still ongoing. But at least he didn't side with russia.

Re:Americans, Russians have held undisclosed talks on Ukrain... by dismalaf on Friday February 21, 2025 @11:55PM (#43136233)
> But at least he didn't side with russia.

Unfortunately the result is the same, but with more death and destruction. Letting Ukraine slowly die (remember, they were still losing territory when Biden left office) is the same as siding with Russia. Nice words don't bring back lost family members.