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Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by xandrius on Friday February 21, 2025 @06:48AM (#43126469)
Pretty sure only techies care about that; an average user on their 10 year old device, couldn't care whether it took 0.1s or 5s to start.

Nice to have, not a must.

Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by rsynnott on Friday February 21, 2025 @07:47AM (#43126849)
There's been a fair bit of research on this. People don't like slow interfaces. They may not necessarily _recognise_ that that's why they don't like the interface, but even slowdowns in the 10s of ms range can make a measurable difference to user sentiment.
Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by gjsman-1000 on Friday February 21, 2025 @09:44AM (#43128000)
And yet even Amazon, eBay, and Wikipedia don’t see value in building an SPA. Chew on that.
Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by rsynnott on Friday February 21, 2025 @09:52AM (#43128105)
SPAs, in practice, tend to be slower than well-done conventional/old-fashioned webapps, and, particularly for Wikipedia-type applications, have all sorts of other usability concerns. Like, which feels more responsive, wikipedia or some random SPA?
Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by sebzim4500 on Friday February 21, 2025 @11:31AM (#43129495)
Presumably they would if there were significant performance benefits of SPAs.
Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by gizmo on Friday February 21, 2025 @06:58AM (#43126529)
Most regular people buy a new phone when their old one has "gotten slow". And why do phones get slow? "What Andy giveth, Bill taketh away."

In tech circles regular people are believed to be stupid and blind. They are neither. People notice when apps get slower and less usable over time. It's impossible not to.

Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by ta1243 on Friday February 21, 2025 @07:07AM (#43126599)
And then they spend their own money making them faster, not linking the slowness to the software, but to some belief their hardware is getting worse over time.
Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by raincole on Friday February 21, 2025 @08:22AM (#43127106)
> Most regular people buy a new phone when their old one has "gotten slow".

Uh...

If this statement were true (IF), it would be even a better argument for software developers to NOT optimize their apps.

Re:Users don't care about your tech stack by Ekaros on Friday February 21, 2025 @08:23AM (#43127113)
The big problem is that most of time users do not have options. Very often there is no better performing alternatives.

Apart from when it is optional consumption say games.