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Re:Try thinking and learning without working memory (2008) by photochemsyn on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @01:35PM (#43093370)
I fell into this trap for a while:

> "The grow­ing trend, espe­cial­ly among young peo­ple, to mul­ti-task may seem won­der­ful. But actu­al­ly, mul­ti-task­ing is most like­ly to inter­fere with focused atten­tion and, in turn, degrade mem­o­ry for­ma­tion, recall, and think­ing quality."

Eventually I realized that parallelization is not really possible, you end up making a mess of everything, and trying to be a rapid context-switcher - similar to the illusion of simultaneous multitasking on a single CPU core - just takes too much energy and time - 15-30 min to unload, clear the slate and reload with something else seems common.

Practically, this is why people working on difficult problems that require their full attention get really irritated by interruptions, and often prefer to work in isolation or only with like-minded individuals.+

Re:Try thinking and learning without working memory (2008) by poincaredisk on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @04:07PM (#43095138)
I love multitasking - I feel like I'm doing more than 100% and I like being productive.

The trick is to pick a combinations that works:

* listening to a language lesson when cycling (learning+sport)

* repeating flash cards in a bus, instead of doomscrolling (commute+learning)

* listening to a language lesson when cycling to work (learning+sport+commute - whoa!)

* thinking about my programming project when cleaning my home (work+brainless menial work)

In most cases this involves something that doesn't require to much too much conscious attention and something that does.

Re:Try thinking and learning without working memory (2008) by AppleBananaPie on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @04:17PM (#43095225)
I'm what you described 100%. I wonder if there's a different type of multitasking term that describes this because I swear it's a thing

Multitasking two coding problems at once completely doesn't work for me but what you described works and I do that all the time.

There seems to be a language disconnect for the type of multitasking that works vs. doesn't work.

Re:Try thinking and learning without working memory (2008) by longcrab on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @06:04PM (#43108907)
I've come across "action sequences" in psychology writing, which seems to be the active form of procedural memory. Over time well rehearsed actions can move from conscious parts of the brain to parts focused on motor actions like the basal ganglia ( and its friends ).

Probably easier to focus if distraction has moved to the old lizard brain.

I can't find an obviously good source to share, but there's plenty of research to check out.