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Re:Are Electric Cars That Much Cheaper to Operate Than ICE? by throwaway_20357 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @11:55AM (#43091997)
Which geography was this analysis made for? It seems model market share is for the US while prices are listed in EUR in the first part and USD in the latter?

A German perspective: Households pay between $0.30 and $0.40 per kWh, Diesel is at around $1.60-$1.70/l and it is safe to assume 6l/100km for a Diesel car. I was never able to consistently drive an EV at < 20 kWh/100km, in Winter it's more 25kWH/100km for certain ones (I look at you Mercedes EQB) it was closer to 30kWH.

To account for the full cost of car ownership I can recommend the methodology of the ADAC (German Automobile Club, Germany only: https://assets.adac.de/Autodatenbank/Autokosten/autokostenue...).

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Re:Are Electric Cars That Much Cheaper to Operate Than ICE? by janalsncm on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @09:30PM (#43097896)
Not just that, the BYD Song which is listed in the first chart isn’t even available for sale in the US.
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Re:Are Electric Cars That Much Cheaper to Operate Than ICE? by diblasio on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @01:40AM (#43099276)
Your numbers are a bit higher than what I get here in NL. Even in winter (0-5°C), my EV stays below 19 kWh/100km, and in ideal conditions (20-25°C), it’s around 15 kWh/100km. Data from Teslamate (sorry for the ugly format):

Temp: 35°C | Efficiency: 77.3% | Consumption: 177 Wh/km | Avg Speed: 94.6 km/h Temp: 30°C | Efficiency: 70.6% | Consumption: 194 Wh/km | Avg Speed: 75.8 km/h Temp: 25°C | Efficiency: 88.7% | Consumption: 154 Wh/km | Avg Speed: 64.6 km/h Temp: 20°C | Efficiency: 93.8% | Consumption: 146 Wh/km | Avg Speed: 61.9 km/h Temp: 15°C | Efficiency: 81.1% | Consumption: 169 Wh/km | Avg Speed: 55.8 km/h Temp: 10°C | Efficiency: 79.9% | Consumption: 171 Wh/km | Avg Speed: 54.9 km/h Temp: 5°C | Efficiency: 77.0% | Consumption: 177 Wh/km | Avg Speed: 54.5 km/h Temp: 0°C | Efficiency: 73.0% | Consumption: 187 Wh/km | Avg Speed: 50.2 km/h

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Re:Are Electric Cars That Much Cheaper to Operate Than ICE? by entropi on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:20AM (#43100569)
I would assume at least some of the difference comes from the autobahn conditions.

Also, from what I have been able to observe, EVs are absurdly underrepresented in the autobahns.

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Re:Are Electric Cars That Much Cheaper to Operate Than ICE? by throwaway_20357 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:09PM (#43104512)
That's from driving VW ID3s, Cupra Borns, Polestars mostly in a city with shorter trips outside. I admit the Mercedes EQB included a trip on the Autobahn with the occasional 90-100 mph.
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