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Re:Grok3 Launch by FranzFerdiNaN on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @03:20AM (#43087266)
Because he is a nazi that was sieg heiling. He has no place in the government and should be shunned by all the world, unless you think 1942 Germany is something to admire.
Re:Grok3 Launch by chrisco255 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @04:05AM (#43087579)
Hi Franz, it's 2025. We beat the Nazis 80 years ago. It's time to move on to the 21st century.
Re:Grok3 Launch by btreecat on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @07:11AM (#43088640)
> Hi Franz, it's 2025. We beat the Nazis 80 years ago. It's time to move on to the 21st century.

Then why the hell are they still waving flags?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna191304

Your bias is showing.

Re:Grok3 Launch by Rover222 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @05:20AM (#43088037)
It's bizarre how many people believe that was literally meant as a Nazi salute.
Re:Grok3 Launch by fenomas on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @08:44AM (#43089372)
Rule of Goats.
Re:Grok3 Launch by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @05:54AM (#43088206)
Nazis would incarcerate people into work camps and turn them into soap or hang them in public squares, kind of different than what Elon did. There's a pretty big gap between doing something in poor taste like Nazi salutes in public because you have the intellectual maturity of a 12 year old edge-lord on Xbox live seeking attention, and being an a actual Nazi committing crimes against humanity.

When everyone goes around calling everyone they hate a Nazi, it only desensitizes people to the real Nazi behavior, kind of like the boy who cried wolf, since there's people out there committing actual atrocities against humans going under the public radar because they never do the Nazi salutes on camera to not draw attention. So then the Nazi term starts to loose any meaning, kind of like the overuse of calling everything "woke" today.

The problem is people as a whole are retarded due to mob behavior and too focused on optics and only judge based on feelings rather than facts, that's how we have actual criminal Nazis going free under the radar while innocent people being swatted and doxxed because they said something right wing on social media. Not all Nazis today wear jackboots and do heils, plenty go about appearing like normal people in public, they could even be your neighbor, police officer or local congressman.

So save your anger for those people instead, as Elon is just a 3 year old throwing tantrums seeking attention, annoying but relatively harmless. If people stopped giving him so much attention, he'd stop doing it.

Re:Grok3 Launch by computerthings on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @06:49AM (#43088489)
Before the atrocities come other things, and you can't dismiss criticism of those things by what hasn't followed, yet. Trump already declared himself -- and anyone who breaks the law to "save the country" -- as above the Law and Musk reacted to that with enthusiasm. Sure, also "just trolling", they're not just ignoring the law and kicking down doors. Of course it's all limited by what one can get away with at any given time, but how much of that can be credited to those who keep trying to push the boundaries.

He said the far-right extremist AfD is "the only hope" for Germany. You can maybe tell other people on how they're not taking the Nazis seriously enough by not "saving their anger" until literally Holocaust; but not us. Americans may still be ho-humm about it, but as far as Germany is concerned, he wants to cross the Rubicon, and every single movement he makes or syllable he utters will be viewed with that in mind.

> If people stopped giving him so much attention, he'd stop doing it.

This is basically blaming the thing criticized on the people criticizing it.

Re:Grok3 Launch by Ray20 on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @07:50AM (#43088901)
>but as far as Germany is concerned

How cunningly you replace "circle of corrupt ruling German elites" with "Germany".

Re:Grok3 Launch by computerthings on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @10:35AM (#43090714)
If you want to make the argument that only "the corrupt elites" are against fascism, then make it. This route of pretending I "replaced" something in an argument you are not verbalizing is very tedious.
Re:Grok3 Launch by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @07:31AM (#43088760)
>but not us

What makes you so sure/special in this regard? What are you gaining from this? If your were that enlightened as you claim, Germany wouldn't be in such a mess right now. If you only spent as much effort in securing your borders, energy independence and defence, as you spent lecturing others on imaginary Nazis and banning hate speech on social media, you'd be a respectable world power right now at the table with Trump and Putin ending this war before it even happened. The "we know better than you" arrogance is Germany's biggest problem.

>This is basically blaming the thing criticized on the people criticizing it.

It's not blaming, I'm just telling you what the simplest solution is. Ignoring attention seekers is better than giving them more attention. Which is why I'm also gonna ignore your future comments form now on.

Re:Grok3 Launch by computerthings on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @10:43AM (#43090804)
> What makes you so sure/special in this regard?

Germany? the scope of the discussion is already limited to the AfD. What makes Germans special in their opinions about Nazis in Germany to is deep experience and knowledge with the subject you are belittling. And I'm also not spending any time banning hate speech on social media, heh. Whatever chip on your shoulder you have about Germany I can barely even decipher and you're right, it's best to agree to disagree.