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Re:Police arrest apparent leader of cultlike 'Zizian' group ... by zozbot234 on Monday February 17, 2025 @07:25PM (#43084620)
Interesting challenge: put all of this crazy information into a LLM prompt and ask it to explain everything as if to a real five year old. Maybe the newer "Deep research" models could do it. (See also https://xkcd.com/547/ of course.)
Re:Police arrest apparent leader of cultlike 'Zizian' group ... by computerthings on Monday February 17, 2025 @07:42PM (#43084750)
> Alright! Imagine there’s a group of people who really like playing a fun video game. They play it a lot, and they have a special leader who shows them how to play really well. This leader is called Zizaran, and he's super good at the game!

> The "Zizaran cult" is just a funny name for the group of people who follow Zizaran and learn from him. They all work together to get better at the game, and they have fun chatting and helping each other out. It’s like a big team where everyone shares tips and tricks!

> But don’t worry—it’s not a spooky cult. It’s just a group of gamers who like playing the same game and having fun together.

Re:Police arrest apparent leader of cultlike 'Zizian' group ... by nl on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:00PM (#43085939)
This works of course. I asked chat GPT to "ELI5 this:" and pasted the text from https://maxread.substack.com/p/the-zizians-and-the-rationali...

This is what it created:

A journalist wrote a long article about a weird, extreme group called the “Zizians.” They’re a mix of radical thinkers from the Rationalist movement—a community of people obsessed with using logic to solve big problems, like AI safety or moral philosophy. The Zizians, led by a person named Ziz, took these ideas to an extreme, combining them with unusual beliefs about morality, consciousness, and even Star Wars-like "Sith" philosophy.

This group has been connected to multiple violent incidents, including murders and standoffs with police. Some of its members have been arrested, gone into hiding, or mysteriously died. The author explains that Rationalist groups, while not inherently violent, often attract highly analytical but socially disconnected people, making them vulnerable to cult-like thinking.

The article also touches on how similar communities—like Effective Altruists and AI researchers—can sometimes create intense, insular environments that lead to extreme behavior. Basically, the Zizians are an example of how even smart, logical people can end up in very bizarre and dangerous places when they take ideas too far.