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Re:When Not to Obey Orders (2019) by harimau777 on Monday February 17, 2025 @08:01AM (#43078526)
I don't see how that changes anything. Especially since in practice "rioting" tends to mean "a protest that the police or those in power don't like".

All of those situations still have the problems associated with deploying the military against civilians: The military isn't trained to carry out appropriate law enforcement. It compromises trust in and support for the military. It tends to be used disproportionately against the left rather than the right. It is easily abused to suppress dissent. Etc.

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Re:When Not to Obey Orders (2019) by marcosdumay on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:06AM (#43080335)
> Rioting is rioting and not protesting.

This doesn't seem to hold well in practice.

> The moment protestors cross over to vandalism and violence, they're rioters and not mere protesters.

And this seem to be usually applied collectively (in obvious opposition to basic human rights) in practice. Often in cases where the violence wasn't done by the protesters and even in cases where the violence was against the protesters.

Also, police has a really shitty history of capturing and holding into account the actual violent people. They usually go free for turning the next protest violent too.

And both happen again and again, all over the world.

Re:When Not to Obey Orders (2019) by AlecSchueler on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:39AM (#43080718)
> Often in cases where the violence wasn't done by the protesters and even in cases where the violence was against the protesters.

Also very possible that the state actors are the ones beginning the violence which is well documented to have happened during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Re:When Not to Obey Orders (2019) by tfigueroa on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:11AM (#43080401)
The point still stands that the choice of response should be appropriate, and there are several choices between inaction and deployment of the military.
Re:When Not to Obey Orders (2019) by Smeevy on Monday February 17, 2025 @11:22AM (#43080529)
I agree that January 6 was a riot.
Re:When Not to Obey Orders (2019) by twic on Monday February 17, 2025 @12:12PM (#43081113)
> The military isn't trained to carry out appropriate law enforcement.

On the other hand, nor are the police.