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Re:Javier Milei Backtracks on $4.4B Memecoin After 'Insiders... by protocolture on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:45PM (#43074462)
I have heard every reasoning for regular currency to have more value over cryptos since 16/17 when I started paying attention.

Gold Standard, Government Protection, Debt, Government credit instruments.

But everything I read about currency tells me that its largely always just agreed upon make believe. The case with the Real absolutely confirmed that for me.

Re:Javier Milei Backtracks on $4.4B Memecoin After 'Insiders... by cwalv on Sunday February 16, 2025 @10:26PM (#43074758)
> largely always just agreed upon make believe

The benefits of having a common/standard unit for an economic ledger are enormous, as it greatly reduces trading friction. That added benefit has real (i.e., not make believe) value, and the more liquid the currency the higher the monetary premium.

Even after hyperinflation, if you normalize to the money supply, currencies generally don't lose value without losing liquidity (being less "agreed upon") .. "Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon"

Re:Javier Milei Backtracks on $4.4B Memecoin After 'Insiders... by 7speter on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:48PM (#43074490)
Neither the rule of law nor following through on contracts and other obligations are imaginary
Re:Javier Milei Backtracks on $4.4B Memecoin After 'Insiders... by int_19h on Sunday February 16, 2025 @11:32PM (#43075171)
And both equally apply to cryptocurrencies.
Re:Javier Milei Backtracks on $4.4B Memecoin After 'Insiders... by brookst on Sunday February 16, 2025 @11:54PM (#43075298)
And now I have to clean coffee out of my keyboard. Thanks.
Re:Javier Milei Backtracks on $4.4B Memecoin After 'Insiders... by int_19h on Tuesday February 18, 2025 @04:59AM (#43087930)
It's literally true, though. Cryptocurrency itself doesn't suddenly render contracts unenforceable or the ability to use courts etc to resolve conflicts. What hinders it is anonymity of the other party, but that's something that cryptocurrency merely enables; whether to engage with anonymous parties or not is still a choice. It does not preclude you from, say, suing Coinbase if they owe you some BTC.

And, conversely, if you try to pay with cash to some shady people in a parking lot, there's not much good you're going to get out of courts if they defraud you.

Re:Javier Milei Backtracks on $4.4B Memecoin After 'Insiders... by marcosdumay on Monday February 17, 2025 @10:34AM (#43080002)
Well... they both are.

Just like currency. All of those were imaginary since they were invented. People have create physical representations for currency in particular, but that doesn't change the fact that it's only a group of people agreeing on something that only exist on their heads.

Equally imaginary things are "corporations", "governments", "military"... If you push hard enough, even "person" fits that, but this one is deeply entrenched in people's minds.