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Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by suzzer99 on Sunday February 16, 2025 @05:18AM (#43066970)
Before the election, Vivek or Elon or one of the galaxy-brains floated the idea of firing every other employee in the federal government based on the last digit of their social security number.

The cruelty is the point.

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by roenxi on Sunday February 16, 2025 @08:26AM (#43067779)
There is a difference between cruelty and arbitrariness. It isn't cruelty.

They're going up against a world-class bureaucracy; a human powered machine that is excellent at dragging out changes beyond the term of any politician. Something like "Yes, Minister" is a comedy show except a lot of it is fairly true - they aren't going to get anything done without doing something drastic like cutting a lot of functions and seeing what happens. Otherwise it'll keep growing.

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by jakelazaroff on Sunday February 16, 2025 @08:47AM (#43067931)
It’s not arbitrary, though. He’s attacking CFPB because he wants to launch financial features on Twitter without oversight. He’s attacking USAID because they helped end apartheid in his native South Africa. It’s really all just a bunch of petty vendettas and looting.
Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by roenxi on Sunday February 16, 2025 @08:56AM (#43068010)
> It’s really all just a bunch of petty vendettas and looting.

Yeah. The technical term for that is "arbitrary". It isn't ideologically motivated; it is based on some dude's opinions based on who-knows-what internal dialogue. Although this financial features on Twitter sounds like a pretty good idea and I'd like to see it in the wild.

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by jkubicek on Sunday February 16, 2025 @11:50AM (#43069429)
A financial institution created by the very person responsible for dismantling our most effective consumer protections against malicious financial institutions sounds like an extremely bad idea.

I'm very curious how anyone could think this is a good idea (for consumers, obviously it's a good idea for Musk)

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by theossuary on Sunday February 16, 2025 @11:22AM (#43069193)
You can't recognize DOGE as an extreme ideological endeavor simply because it aligns with your ideology.
Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by jakelazaroff on Sunday February 16, 2025 @01:08PM (#43070123)
No it’s not? “Arbitrary” would be if he were, like, picking names out of a hat, or the first one that he sees on Twitter in the morning. He’s attacking agencies for extremely personal and ideological reasons. Literally the opposite of arbitrary.

> Although this financial features on Twitter sounds like a pretty good idea and I'd like to see it in the wild.

Kind of a jaw-dropping reaction to the fact that he’s dismantling the very agency that would be in charge of regulating those features. Honestly, I really struggle to understand the mindset that’s not merely okay with but excited by this sort of egregious corruption.

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by roenxi on Sunday February 16, 2025 @08:14PM (#43073747)
> Honestly, I really struggle to understand the mindset that’s not merely okay with but excited by this sort of egregious corruption.

Seems like it should be easy to do. We're looking at this big corrupt blob thing of questionable competence that is the US political class, and then one polyp of the mass does something that probably makes the world a little better. Yay. Well done blob thing.

It'd be better if people committed to a high-integrity political class but it is a monumental task (probably multi-generational) and the people trying to progress it haven't made much progress. Suggestions welcome.

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by jakelazaroff on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:26PM (#43074312)
Is the "one polyp of mass that does something that probably makes the world a little better"… supposed to be DOGE? The single most nakedly corrupt government body in probably the past century?

Like, are we not commenting on an article about how we recklessly fired dozens to hundreds of people who were overseeing our nuclear weapons stockpile? And it turned out they're actually really important, but we're having trouble contacting them to hire them back? And the group that's responsible for all this… is somehow not the questionably competent one?

I don't really know what to say, man. It's pretty clear this isn't going to go anywhere productive. Have a nice night.

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by roenxi on Sunday February 16, 2025 @11:21PM (#43075101)
> The single most nakedly corrupt government body in probably the past century?

The last president was forced to issue multiple preemptive pardons for his own family after being dogged for years by serious corruption allegations. That probably counts as worse and it isn't even particularly outrageous by the standards of the US Congress, it seemed to be pretty routine stuff. I'd expect most members of the US congress to struggle if real scrutiny was bought to bear since their financial circumstances often don't appear to make sense.

Then beyond the personal corruption there is the lobbying network that constantly tries and succeeds in writing law for various unsavoury interest groups. Realistically if Musk is doing something corrupt - TBD in my opinion - his major mistake is being directly associated with the changes, he should have learned from the experts and done it discretely like everyone else does.

> And the group that's responsible for all this… is somehow not the questionably competent one?

You seem to have tapped into the mindset with this one. Say it again seriously and you've made it there.

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by PaulRobinson on Monday February 17, 2025 @09:19AM (#43079244)
As you mention "Yes, Minister", as a potential metaphor for truth...

That series was based on conversations between the writers and senior civil servants in UK Government. It was Margaret Thatcher's favourite show (she even wrote a scene to perform with the actors at some event or other), because in 1970s and 1980s Britain, it was incredibly on the money.

However, the more apt political comedy to reflect what modern politics looks like isn't "Yes, Minister" or "Yes, Prime Minister" (the sequel), but "The Thick of It", which shows well-meaning but put-upon civil servants dealing with the tyranny and abuse of special advisors and external consultants bullying and demeaning them at every turn. It, too, is based on conversations with real insiders in UK government.

I'll leave it to you to decide which is most apt for modern Washington, but there was a film of the latter mostly set in Washington, which tries to capture the tensions on that side of the Atlantic quite well, with the main joke being the UK's necessary subservience to a larger World power. It's worth a watch.

For my money, Musk looks a lot more like Malcolm Tucker than he does Jim Hacker.

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by tremendoussss on Sunday February 16, 2025 @08:34AM (#43067837)
I think being fair is the point. Instead of using any metric that might infringe on a protected class, let's use math?
Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by JKCalhoun on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:15AM (#43068185)
(Curious what the last digit of Vivek's SS is.)
Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by joyeuse6701 on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:35AM (#43068358)
In another time it was called decimation, and was used as collective punishment.
Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by tremendoussss on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:49AM (#43068454)
Ah, thank you, I didn't know.

Seems like a stretch to compare executions and layoffs, no one else is immune to layoffs

Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by psb217 on Sunday February 16, 2025 @11:19AM (#43069176)
The people deciding to execute layoffs are generally immune to those layoffs.
Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by fluidcruft on Sunday February 16, 2025 @08:48AM (#43067943)
It was Vivek and his plan was to randomly (lottery) fire half of all federal employees the first year and then randomly fire half of those who remain the second year get to an overall 75% reduction.
Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by chinathrow on Sunday February 16, 2025 @09:22AM (#43068242)
Talk is cheap. These idiots.
Re:US goverment seeks to rehire recently fired nuclear workers by b_davis_ on Sunday February 16, 2025 @12:40PM (#43069909)
at least it would be known when it starts and when it stops with this solution. the current 'audit' will take years....