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Re:U.K. demand for a back door to Apple data threatens Ameri... by singleshot_ on Thursday February 13, 2025 @03:18PM (#43040762)
To be clear, tech companies provide subscriber metadata (e.g., billing address, real name) with a court order or subpoena. They provide actual user data (e.g., voicemail) only with a warrant.

Or has something changed since the last time I requested user data from a tech company by subpoena? Or are you talking about intelligence collection as distinct from law enforcement?

Also worth noting that LE frequently has PC without having a warrant (for example: every time they ask a magistrate for a warrant and secure one, we can infer they had PC first). In fact they perform many searches with only PC (see: exigency, eventual discovery, etc).

It would be more apt to say any subscriber metadata Apple knows, the FBI can know without a warrant.

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Re:U.K. demand for a back door to Apple data threatens Ameri... by sneak on Thursday February 13, 2025 @03:23PM (#43040810)
This is false. FAA702 collection provides full content.

This was disclosed by Edward Snowden; the internal codename for such collection is PRISM.

The line between foreign intelligence collection and domestic law enforcement no longer exists. This is why parallel construction is so common today.

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Re:U.K. demand for a back door to Apple data threatens Ameri... by nickburns on Thursday February 13, 2025 @03:32PM (#43040935)
Outrageous and (obviously) unconfirmed claims. But again, and as an American whose private data should never fall under the purview of FISA or FAA or any other IC intelligence gathering activities, I don't seriously doubt domestic US spying/surveillance capabilities.

That LE has to feign the need for a warrant should the need arise to make lawfully admissible that which they already know and are in possession of is the most likely scenario. Encryption really is the only safeguard.

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Re:U.K. demand for a back door to Apple data threatens Ameri... by singleshot_ on Thursday February 13, 2025 @03:32PM (#43040932)
I do not agree with your last two sentences but greatly appreciate the quick reply.
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