Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead

Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by freehorse on Thursday February 13, 2025 @12:44PM (#43038843)

I think entitlement like that is stupid and bad for open source (and everything). However, in the next paragraph the author gets into criticising the opposite position, that asahi linux was not ready for everyday use. The entitled requests came from users that thought of asahi linux as exactly covering an everyday use case, a linux distro they should be able to use to carry on their tasks. This I find contradictory. While some entitled users always exist, you can either admit that asahi is not a daily driver for people who want to use most of basic features of a laptop, or admit that the requests make sense. You cannot both claim that asahi is fine to be used, and complain that users ask for being able to connect an external monitor on a M1 macbook air. I am not sure what is wrong with the claim that asahi linux is an experimental (and no less amazing) project that people lacks certain (widely considered basic when things come to this) functionality, or that the functionality of it is restricted to these use cases that may include using it as a headless server but exclude some common other ones. I am not sure how this would matter, but setting user expectations to a level that matched the state of development may have helped to limit such requests.

I say that also because I have been gotten quite a few responses from people that I should use asahi, while looking at what it supports it definitely would not make sense for me, and you cannot just present it to a macos alternative right now.

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Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by UncleEntity on Thursday February 13, 2025 @01:37PM (#43039505)

Thing is it will never get to be a daily driver if people don't use it and shake out the bugs.

25 years ago (huh, long time), when Windows ME pissed me off for good, linux wasn't exactly known for being a daily driver but I gave it a try and, unsurprisingly, it did become reliable over the years. Other than Gnome's propensity to make stupid changes to default settings I can't remember the last time I had to even think about messing with the underlying system and other than a simple google search on the linux compatibility of hardware before I buy I just don't think about it. Actually, I take that back, when I first got my current laptop I was messing around to get the AMD mesa drivers (or whatever) working because I wanted to mess around with this fancy GPGPU thing.

Personally, if I were to buy a macbook it would be for the OS and not dodgy linux support because I've walked that road before. If the Christmas sales were just a tiny bit better though...

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Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by tuna74 on Thursday February 13, 2025 @02:01PM (#43039816)

You can't shake out bugs for features that are not there. More users won't help, only more developers.

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Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by freehorse on Thursday February 13, 2025 @06:39PM (#43042895)

I am talking about lack of pretty standard features, not bugs. Having more users would not help there. And in general, you dont need a huge influx of users, and you definitely you dont get as much help from users who are not going to put at least some effort in the feedback they give. You want users that are conscious enough about what they are using to give useful feedback and/or support with donations. I am pretty sure that some people still are attracted to running an experimental version of linux.

Imo modern linux experience is much better than the situation you describe, at least as long as you use certain type of hardware. In the past it was definitely harder. But wrt asahi, I want the "luxury" of using an external monitor with my 13" macbook air, and sadly, while in the past x86 machines I put linux I would put some effort and get AMD mesa drivers to work, I cannot do that here. I respect the effort put in the asahi project, but calling it suitable for a daily driver is misleading, unless you specify exactly what sort of daily driver you mean. Stuff like using an external monitor is pretty basic in my book of daily usage.

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Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by CRConrad on Monday February 17, 2025 @01:31PM (#43081891)

> unsurprisingly

In hindsight.

> [Linux] did become reliable over the years.

Might have gone the other way. And if it had, nobody would be surprised at that either, now.

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