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Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by Capricorn2481 on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:08AM (#43037362)
Wow, what an uncharitable read. Are you aware of what that term means? He said it was not about literally shaming people, but showing what contributing to the kernel is like, and even clarified it wouldn't be for public consumption. It's a colloquialism for a resource where peers can learn from each other's mistakes. My high school Spanish class had a hall of shame.

It's a magnitude more professional than the extremely over the top and public emails that Linus shares, which HN jerks off over. I too would be burnt out if people were picking apart what I said so closely but clapping when Linus says "this code is retarded"

Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by diggan on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:14AM (#43037450)
> He said it was not about literally shaming people

The original message I read (https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/208e1fc3-cfc3-4a26-98...) they quite explicitly said (verbatim): "If shaming on social media does not work, then tell me what does, because I'm out of ideas."

Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by Capricorn2481 on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:22AM (#43037596)
Yes I'm aware of that quote, which doesn't make sense to link with the original quote because his intentions with the "Hall of shame" are different from this quote.

This message brings up a lot of valid complaints about talented developers being stonewalled and you're honing in on one word that is not being used the way you think. Again, there are dozens of emails from Linus that are vastly more unprofessional than this.

Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by diggan on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:32AM (#43037752)
> because his intentions with the "Hall of shame" are different from this quote.

Aha, I thought it was referring to the same "event"/context but it clearly didn't. Thank you for the correction.

Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by felipec on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:21AM (#43037570)
As if he didn't read the comment about not wanting the cross-language code to spread like cancer in the most uncharitable way possible.
Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by Capricorn2481 on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:27AM (#43037675)
My complaint is not that this maintainer would be charitable in their reads or should stay on the project, but that they are unevenly being examined because they are not one of the greybeards.

If you don't want a maintainer, that's fine, but to claim it has anything to do with professionalism is dumb when this is seen as communication to admire.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linusrants/

Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by finnthehuman on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:55AM (#43038136)
> He said it was not about literally shaming people, but showing what contributing to the kernel is like

Oh. Nevermind then. If he says so then it must be fine. It has zero ulterior motives, will cause no unintended effects and is no longer dripping in passive aggressive hostility. Nice of him to clear that up.

Re:Resigning as Asahi Linux project lead by bigstrat2003 on Thursday February 13, 2025 @08:45PM (#43043760)
"hall of shame" inherently means it's about literally shaming people. If that isn't what he meant, then he shouldn't have used those words.

> It's a magnitude more professional than the extremely over the top and public emails that Linus shares

Since when do two wrongs make a right? I think it's perfectly fair to say Linus hasn't shown the best leadership here. But that doesn't excuse Marcan's behavior.