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Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by qingcharles on Thursday February 13, 2025 @03:58AM (#43034087)
I always wonder how many of the sayings I inherited from my father he inherited from my grandfather that died before I was born. It's like a kind of genetic memory.
Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by andrepd on Thursday February 13, 2025 @04:00AM (#43034114)
It's the original meaning of "meme"
Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by Terr_ on Thursday February 13, 2025 @04:34AM (#43034279)
I'd characterize modern popular usage as... hmmm... "formulaic in-joke."
Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by cassepipe on Thursday February 13, 2025 @04:54AM (#43034396)
It took me some time to understand you meant it came from memetic
Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by cassepipe on Thursday February 13, 2025 @04:20AM (#43034201)
Except it's not genetic ? So I guess a cultural memory, sometimes referred to as "Memory"
Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by lupire on Thursday February 13, 2025 @07:55AM (#43035375)
It's memetic memory, also called "culture"
Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by roenxi on Thursday February 13, 2025 @04:23AM (#43034221)
It isn't as reliable as something that goes generation to generation transmission, but I think some things skip every other generation; like an organised grandparent leading to a disorganised parent who never had to think about it. Then an organised child because they learned to cover for the parent.
Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by silisili on Thursday February 13, 2025 @04:25AM (#43034235)
I have a ton myself that my Dad would say but couldn't explain, so I don't use them as much.

Two notable examples... 'What do you want, a Dewey button?' as a sarcastic way of saying 'who cares.' He didn't know why. Google says it's probably related to Thomas Dewey.

'Kitty bar the door.' An expression to mean he was going to go all out. He didn't know who kitty was or why he said it. I still have no idea its real etymology.

Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by eszed on Thursday February 13, 2025 @08:35AM (#43035647)
You may not have been able to find that saying because its more-usual version is "Katy, bar the door":

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/katy-bar-the-door.html

Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by silisili on Friday February 14, 2025 @01:51AM (#43045611)
Thanks, this completely tracks as he's infamous for mispronunciations and mixed idioms.

Sadly, even clicking both links and a cursory Google search, nobody really knows where 'Katy bar the door' came from, either.

Re:Why young parents should focus on building trust with the... by nkurz on Thursday February 13, 2025 @08:55AM (#43035843)
> 'Kitty bar the door.'

It looks like Katy or Katie are the more common spellings in the Southern US, although Kitty seems to the standard when talking about hockey. The origin is disputed: https://worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-kat1.htm