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Re:Show HN: A no-build fullstack SSR TypeScript web framework by wubrr on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @04:25PM (#43029929)
Deno does not support jsx and typescript 'without a build step'. It just runs a build/transform step for you under the hood - using the same tsc compiler, config, etc.

https://docs.deno.com/runtime/reference/jsx/

Saying this is not a 'build step' is like saying a shell script that builds and runs a C program from source has no build step.

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Re:Show HN: A no-build fullstack SSR TypeScript web framework by nsonha on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @07:02PM (#43031191)
> a shell script that builds and runs a C program from source has no build step

I would say so. Ultimately build step or not isn't a meaningful thing to care about. What matters is the cold start/runtime impact. In the case of deno/bun, the impact seem minuscule/not meaningful.

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Re:Show HN: A no-build fullstack SSR TypeScript web framework by wubrr on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @09:08PM (#43031964)
> Ultimately build step or not isn't a meaningful thing to care about. What matters is the cold start/runtime impact.

The two are closely related.

> In the case of deno/bun, the impact seem minuscule/not meaningful.

Seems like a pretty baseless assertion.

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Re:Show HN: A no-build fullstack SSR TypeScript web framework by nsonha on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @09:46PM (#43032142)
you're right, found this benchmark https://maxday.github.io/lambda-perf
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Re:Show HN: A no-build fullstack SSR TypeScript web framework by nextaccountic on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @08:20PM (#43031713)
It has no build step. It builds when you run

It's like language implementations that nominally aren't "compiled", like Python, but nonetheless compile to bytecode when you run the program

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