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Re:The Prophet of Parking by bigstrat2003 on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:36PM (#43028908)
> That’s because no one uses the bus, if there’s demand, supply will be added.

You need to solve this problem before you take away parking, not after. Otherwise people will never accept your proposal (and nor should they tbh, as there's no guarantee that the promised supply will arrive). Right now people are, by and large, content with the status quo. In a democratic system of government, that means you need to convince them to change, and that won't happen unless you address their objections in advance.

Re:The Prophet of Parking by amanaplanacanal on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:44PM (#43028992)
People parking cars on the street are simply freeloading off the taxes of people who don't do that. They should pay for what they are using, so they can make better choices.
Re:The Prophet of Parking by sandworm101 on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @03:03PM (#43029165)
And people living without parking, but who still expect the services of plumbers, carpenters, pizza delivery, amazon vans, taxis, home care workers, not to mention emergency services, are also freeloaders. When such vehicles have to park on the street they block roads and pedestrian traffic.

Some communities are starting to enforce against amazon trucks that park inappropriately on the street. They often force traffic into dangerous situations as everyone must skirt around them.

Re:The Prophet of Parking by matsemann on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @03:48PM (#43029630)
People often say this when parking spots are being taken away, but when they try to placate it with having short time parking spots or paid parking (which would increase the likelihood of a pizza driver or handyman finding a free spot) they somehow aren't happy. As it turns out, it was never about those services, only about having free storage for their own car.
Re:The Prophet of Parking by ajmurmann on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @05:28PM (#43030455)
To add, somehow in Europe you can have pedestrian zones with no street parking, and still people live there and everyone has functioning plumbing.
Re:The Prophet of Parking by c22 on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @03:11PM (#43029253)
None of us are freeloaders. We all pay taxes and consume our own unique constellation of public resources. It's good that we're all different, concentration rarely ends well.
Re:The Prophet of Parking by amrocha on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:44PM (#43028996)
Well, there’s a lot of people in this thread not content with the status quo.

The whole urbanism movement of the past decade is evidence of that I think.

Moreover, even if a community is happy with free parking and expensive housing within that community, it doesn’t mean that people outside that community are happy with it.

I think it’s a bit more complicated than people are happy with the status quo.

Re:The Prophet of Parking by uoaei on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:48PM (#43029031)
This same logic applies for every single other proposal (charge money for on-street parking, etc.). Many people would not be able to afford to live where they already do if that change was done overnight.
Re:The Prophet of Parking by jhanschoo on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @09:10PM (#43031972)
> You need to solve this problem before you take away parking, not after.

Isn't pricing street parking the solution the parent comment proposed? It increases parking availability in the short term, while increasing demand for public transport.

Re:The Prophet of Parking by lmm on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @09:36PM (#43032096)
> You need to solve this problem before you take away parking, not after.

If you can't change anything then you can't change anything. Replacing parking spaces with bus lanes can be a huge improvement, but obviously you have to take the parking space away before you can put the bus lane in.

> Right now people are, by and large, content with the status quo.

Boomers might be. Young people who have no hope of ever owning a home anywhere where the jobs are aren't.

Re:The Prophet of Parking by comte7092 on Friday February 14, 2025 @01:55PM (#43051739)
Im not talking about taking away parking per se, im talking about taking away free parking.