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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by speedgoose on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @01:21AM (#43022456)
They eventually did in this story.

    Tesla had finally given Zhang what she’d been asking for, but they’d published the data publicly and included her vehicle identification number. She said she and her family started getting threatened and doxed online. Besides, she wondered, how could she be sure Tesla hadn’t modified or redacted the data from her car? It was less than the victory she’d hoped for. Feeling besieged, she sued Tesla a second time, in March 2022, for invading her privacy.
    
    Zhang lost both cases she brought against Tesla.
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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by packtreefly on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @01:58AM (#43022620)
The problem isn't that the owner didn't get the data. The problem is that the method for getting the data is that you must beg Tesla for it, rather than just slurping it out of a USB port inside the car.

If Tesla is going to go to the trouble of uploading all this shit to the cloud anyway, the least they can do is give customers a no-questions-asked download button.

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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by kelnos on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:13AM (#43022703)
Not only do you have to beg Tesla for it, but you have to trust that Tesla hasn't doctored the data to corroborate the narrative that Tesla wants.
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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by simondotau on Thursday February 13, 2025 @12:18AM (#43032912)
You say that like there's any plausible alternative. Unless you're compiling the source code running on the car, you are trusting the manufacturer.
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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by simondotau on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @02:11AM (#43022692)
I agree with the sentiment, but in practice this is a horrific idea. Make it easy and it’ll be snaffled up by law enforcement, whether covertly, with intimidation, or with routine warrants.
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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by packtreefly on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:19AM (#43037535)
It's currently accessible to law enforcement via the law-abiding manufacturer acting as sole custodian. I don't see how this makes any difference.
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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by whamlastxmas on Wednesday February 12, 2025 @10:39AM (#43026418)
This is factually not true. You fill out a single form on their website and get it less than a week later:

https://www.tesla.com/support/privacy#data-provided

There’s tons of anecdotes of people doing this very easily online. Good luck getting data this easily from any other major manufacturer

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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by packtreefly on Thursday February 13, 2025 @11:15AM (#43037475)
That counts as begging from my point of view.

> Good luck getting data this easily from any other major manufacturer

This is an industry-wide problem.

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Re:Parents were injured in a Tesla crash. She ended up havin... by 93po on Friday February 14, 2025 @04:02PM (#43053039)
If that's begging then signing up for literally any website is begging the website for an account
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