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Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI by scarface_74 on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:48PM (#43008036)
You realize that’s not the argument you think it is to justify Tesla’s market cap?
Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI by ghc on Monday February 10, 2025 @09:01PM (#43008123)
I was merely correcting someone who was wrong on the internet, because Tesla does not in fact ship "a couple hundred thousand janky cars", as OP claimed.

I wouldn't touch Tesla stock with a 10 foot pole.

Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI by scarface_74 on Monday February 10, 2025 @09:18PM (#43008223)
They ship millions of janky cars.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-placed-bottom-consumer-repor...

> Consumer Reports‘ annual reliability rankings have been released, and with data from 24 brands and over 300,000 vehicles, Tesla fell near the bottom (19/24) along with Mercedes-Benz, Jeep, Volkswagen, GMC, and Chevrolet. Electric vehicles overall also placed poorly, being the second least reliable category of vehicles. Hybrids/plugin hybrids, especially those from Toyota, were found to be the most reliable.

Also the idea of the “best selling car” is meaningless. That’s like when Apple has “the best selling phone” when other manufacturers like Samsung sell a dozen types of phones.

Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI by ben_w on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @05:44AM (#43011269)
I remember when the original iMac was the best selling model of computer among all brands. A title Apple retained until, IIRC, they offered multiple colour options.

MacOS was still something like 5% or so of the overall market.

Re:Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4B Bid for Control of OpenAI by scarface_74 on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @07:41AM (#43012107)
Funny aside, the narrative is usually that Apple was struggling between the time Jobs left and he returned between 1984 and 1997. The truth is that their market cap was larger than Microsoft’s through 1992-93 and they were the largest or second largest computer seller around 1991-94. The bottom didn’t fall out until Windows 95 and Apple manufacturing low end computers no one wanted.