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Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by esafak on Friday February 07, 2025 @11:39PM (#42980422)
Did it have any interesting features that are not available in today's products?
Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by yoshamano on Friday February 07, 2025 @11:52PM (#42980488)
Kind of. It was kind of like a community in a box. The server and client software were dead simple to use and could be run off of a potato. You would get a message board, live chat, and file sharing all in one package. Servers could be advertised on a Tracker that could be queried from within the client. I was a Windows and BeOS user at the time and spent a fair amount of time bumming around anime and music themed servers. Also ran into one or two servers with big "Coast To Coast AM" vibes. Fun times.
Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by iwontberude on Saturday February 08, 2025 @01:06AM (#42980784)
It was a BBS with a GUI
Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by kennywinker on Friday February 07, 2025 @11:47PM (#42980467)
I’d say it’s main feature was linking file sharing to community. Napster and the clones that followed it were efficient ways to move files around, but you didn’t get to (or have to) chat with people about their music collections while you did it - if i recall right, often servers were run as take a file leave a file, so if you had something good to exchange that was social capital
Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by esafak on Friday February 07, 2025 @11:50PM (#42980474)
Thanks for sharing. Such rules (ul/dl ratios) have existed since the BBS era.
Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by Mainsail on Saturday February 08, 2025 @12:41AM (#42980693)
I may be making this up, but I seem to recall a chat feature on one of Napster, Limewire, or Kazaa.
Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by ghotli on Saturday February 08, 2025 @08:00AM (#42982680)
Soulseek is likely the one you're remembering. I remember talking to people with similar collections of music. Hotline was my primary passion for quite some time but soulseek had a longer run of utility in my childhood on the nascent web.
Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by bradly on Saturday February 08, 2025 @12:43AM (#42980702)
> if i recall right, often servers were run as take a file leave a file, so if you had something good to exchange that was social capital

Often there was a requests directory in the top level with you would need to upload a requested album/program in order to get access to the entire server. There was also banner clicking to get a password, but that never worked tbh.

Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by informal007 on Saturday February 08, 2025 @01:06AM (#42980786)
It's like local Google Drive.
Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by amatecha on Saturday February 08, 2025 @01:21AM (#42980852)
It was very much a "TCP/IP BBS". One unique feature was the "tracker", on which you could list your server. You could browse the servers, hop onto one (as long as guest access was on, or they'd have a login/pass in the server description), and there would be a user list, a chat window, a Files window, and a News window. Usually there would be people actively in discussion in the Chat. Indeed, many places require that you upload one of the "requests" to get an account with download privs. Others allowed guest download, but that became more rare over time. Each server had its own vibe/community.

There was an easter egg where you could press Ctrl-F12 and type in a "command" into the text entry box. These would unlock some special hidden functionality like changing your icon to one only available via that command (presumably for the devs of the software so they could have an exclusive user icon), or encipher your chat messages with a basic offset-substitution cipher. There were others that would restrict your chat to only saying "oink!" and turning your icon into a pig -- this was used as a prank to use on people "Hey dude if you press Ctrl-F12 and type fuelharp you'll get secret admin access!" (only to have them turn into a pig) :) Another Ctrl-F12 command would report your upload/download ratio into the chat - either a fun way to brag about your good ratio, or a good one to bait perennial leeches into typing so they'd inadvertantly reveal their pesky leeching ways!

Anyway, all in all a really fun place for a few years where it was "the" online destination for Mac users. I spent an ungodly amount of hours on there (and still hop on pretty often). :)

Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by esafak on Saturday February 08, 2025 @08:18AM (#42982767)
I wonder if that's how oink's pink palace got its name.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oink%27s_Pink_Palace

Re:Hotline for Modern Apple Systems by tonymet on Saturday February 08, 2025 @01:50PM (#42985169)
Vibes. Mac culture in the 90s was reactionary and distinct from PC culture. Remember the “I’m a Mac – I’m a PC “ commercials? Those were downstream of the Mac user culture.